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I am all about doing something like this. The troops need to be recognized as much as possible! When I get back to OH I will be participating!

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PCness is over rated... i hear ya on that. But there is no way PM shouldnt be to blame! :wtf:

Those cops are crazy on their bikes. Bike cops do some crazy stuff. Awesome!

This is true. Makes me want to sue Sour Patch Kids for my dental bills. Ridiculous! MMMM... Sour Patch Kids... Sounds good:D

Part of me thinks he should be done and no longer have any part of the NFL and part of me thinks... ehh... he did his time. But if it comes anywhere near happening again, TOAST!

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24/7 one in the hole. As many have said, why carry a paper weight in your holster? Its there to protect not scare. There to illiminate the threat not intimidate the threat. There to point and shoot not rack and shoot. Always always always carry ready to go.

If it was my g'ma, you do what you have to. The same when it comes to any of my family. They all know that they need to listen to the cops when they are instructed to do something therefore they get what is coming to them if they dont. Besides, what if this was the knife she had? http://gizmodo.com/219363/gun-hidden-in-a-knife-its-two-two-two-kills-in-one Never know. Take care of things in the quickest, safest (for everyone else, not necessarily the suspect) possible.

Nicely done. You wanted that pretty bad. Good job completing the task!

That logic doesnt work with a todler. Why? Because a todler with a knife isnt a threat. You wont find a 3 year old purposely stabbing someone. Maybe by accident but not on purpose. However you can fine old people purposely harming others. For example... http://www.smh.com.au/news/national/87yearold-murders-86yearold/2008/10/03/1222651300624.html Even an 87 y/o bound for a wheel chair and missing limbs is capable. You wouldnt have been happy if someone slammed him on the ground before hand either but it would have saved a life.

Correct. You can expect the police officer to do their job without undue harm or injury. That is exactly what the officer did. She did not allow undue harm or injury to the public or the officers involved. The old lady was a suspect, not the common public in this situation. Therefore needed to be dealt with in a manor that would keep the public as safe as possible. The safest way to get control of the situation, safe for everyone including the suspect, was to do what she did. Get rid of the danger, big or small, that was around. I would expect even an accountant, who has no knowledge of the law as applied by a LEO, to understand that the officer kept everyone safe. She could have, like i have said before, put her into an arm bar and pop he shoulder out and prob end up bringing her to the ground anyways. As for the accountant scenerio, yes, i would expect my accountant to do his/her job correctly. But if my accountant were to explain to me that the base way to file my taxes is seperately because of whatever reason. I would prob agree with him/her due to the fact that it is his/her job, even if things didnt turn out the way i expected them to. Maybe i thought i was going to get more money out of filing jointly but you did sereratly because i have my own buisness and things would have been blah blah blah... Oh, gotcha! You did it that way because it was best for everyone involved even though it didnt seem like it at first. Gotcha now, i trust my accountant to do those things looking out for my wife and me as I would hope you trust the police to look out for you. It may not look like they do the right thing everytime but but behind the scenes there is more than you see up front.

Exactly. People are crticizing the way a cop does his/her job when they dont know anything about being a cop. They will take things the way they want to and thats the way it is. No matter what the law states or what may happen, the cop should apparently not use force when the people who dont know anything about being a cop dont want them to.

Thats like saying that i should treat the next 20 y/o male like i would treat my brother. That doesnt make sense. Your g'ma might be a very nice, non-senile woman while my g'ma is a senile woman they dont trust to cut chicken anymore due to the risk she carries. As a LEO you can not go to a scene with anything in mind other than what you are seeing. And what was seen was an old lady with a knife not listening to what the cop told her to do. She reacted in the best way possible for all people involved. The old lady had already pointed the knife at the officer while talking to her. There is no need for the convo to last longer and risk anyones safety.

Well im sorry that your experiences with cops have not been pleasent but you cant focus your attention the the bad cops and have them take over you minset on all cops. There are A LOT of great cops out there who are humble and do a great job. Those are the guys to focus on. Usually the cops that are cocky and full of them selves, have a hard time getting back up from time to time and need to be humbled a time or two to straiten them self out. I will still stick to, and will always stick to saying the cop acted correctly 100%.

Im sticking with my bike. Still saying to go for the 600rr. The seat is a bit more comfortable due to the face that it is thinner by the thighs. Meaning it doesnt force your legs out and cut off the circulation when standing. Since it is thin making it more comfortable, and the rr is amazing with corners and straits, it makes it a great choice. However the Daytona was something i was thinking about before too.

Youre right, next time someone is coming after you with a knife and you call the cops, i hope they stop and brew some tea and bake some cupcakes so after they have a quiet calm chat with the suspect they can sit down and snack too. Cause tea and cupcakes and casual convo's should be a daily routine for all cops. Hmmm.. maybe we should make doughnuts! Yes... Donuts!

I think you have confused some of my statements if you think im implying you owe me anything. Nobody owes me anything. Yes, I have done a lot but you haven't heard me brag about any of it, and you wont. The point i was trying to get across is that there are many many cops, military members and others that do things every day that the normal everyday civilian wouldnt ever want to do. Yes, they volunteer for it but thats not the point. If they didnt volunteer for it then your states individually and the country as a whole would be no where near as safe and confortable as it is. Again, no ones owes me anything. I hope this clears things up a bit for you.

Well, its off to bed for me. Have a great day everyone and ill see what pops up on here when i wake up.

I really like how my rep is gone now after all this, not that it is of great importance. Thanks guys! It is appreciated that people would do that because they differ in views. Interesting. And the comment "just concede that it was excessive." That tells me the maturity. We are going to take rep because i didnt agree with you. Impressive.

Very much agreed. Thank you!

That depends. An arm bar, especially to the elderly lady, could VERY easily, even with a small amount of pressure, can dislocate a shoulder. Putting her on the ground is actually safer for everyone. Depending on how much the old lady struggled with the arm bar could cause a stabbing as well.

You asked the question and I answered it in my opinion. It is somewhat defensive due to the fact that I am a cop. An "assault" on one is and assault on all. And by the way, a steak knife can kill someone just as fast as a gun so it needs to be dealt with just as fast. The officer didnt shoot the lady, she took the better option of putting her down. Have you ever put someone down to the ground while trying to control one arm that has a weapon? It isnt easy to softly, gently lay them to the ground. As a matter of fact, if you do it fast you are less likely to hurt them. If done softly/slowly then you can break or dislocate their arm very easily and with little pressure.

Watch the video again. The other officer came over and had to remove the other female from trying to pull the old lady. After he controlled that lady, who listened to the cop like she was supposed to, he moved over and DID remove the kinfe.