The same "teams of engineers " covers some of my job too, Speedy. Awhile back, when i was wrenching on cars at BP Procare, customer walks in and says he needs his goalie fix. Um what kind of car? show me on the side of the build is parked a late 80's Pontaic 6000 LE, guy thought it was a G not a 6, and called it a G000LE http://carphotos.cardomain.com/ride_images/4/281/2941/38201470004_large.jpg