Wooo.. I have a lot to catch up on..
So, I get a rare post about something going on.
My dad and my aunt are still employed (and VERY near retirement) from GM.
I quit GM back in 2006, shortly before Mansfield closed.
My dad is walking the picket line today. He walks it Every Tuesday.
My Uncle was part of the National Committee in the 70-90's for renegotiations (in other words, he was one of the guys negotiating directly with GM)
I have LOTS of friends still employed (currently striking), I have many family members retired. My sister took a buyout about 8 years ago (maths are hard, not totally sure when.. but it was when Delphis was closing plants)
So.. I have LOTS of ins and outs of all of this.
Final note.
I fucking HATE GENERAL MOTORS AND THE UAW. I quit because of the golden handcuffs they offer.
My dad (a tool and die maker) has been ROYALLY screwed over retirement wise since he was semi-forced to transfer halfway across the country and told he would get to carry on his seniority/retirement date at the new plant. They didnt. They took away 5 years of his life/time towards retirement, so he's having to work an extra 5 years due to pension shit and the union/gm lying to him ..
its a whole story, i dont feel like getting into, just know that my dad lives 6 hours away from the place his entire family has lived since the 40's, and he's stuck on second shift and works mandatory satrudays and sundays most week, and sometimes doesnt have a day off for weeks on end.
Also - this contract has NOTHING that will help him with this retirement issue and he will be able to retire at 72 now, instead of 67.
Im adding responses to the quotes, and am willing to answer as many questions as I can.
I promise you.. thats not all I did; i hated every minute of every fucking day there. I worked in two different plants. I worked for Delphi in Dayton, where i made the brakes for basilly all of hte cars for GM.. From Pistons, to calipers, to the whole brake assembly. Im permanently injured, (while minor) from the work i did.
the most I ever made was $67K, and they are operating under the same contract (basiclly) that was in place when i left in 2006. There has been no "raises". I worked Mandatory Saturdays and overtime most nights.
I worked EASILY 60 hours+ a week, on fucking miserable 2nd shift.
I was a "Temp" for 2+ years.. That meant No vacation, No sick days, no benefits. You missed a day, you were wrote up. You had a sick kid.. hope your significant other could take care fo them, You risked losing your job for EVERYTHING that could possibly go wrong in your life.
Why? Because you were a temp. THIS is a HUGE sticking point for the contract right now. They want some sort of guarantee for those employees to be hired on as full-time employees.
If you all wanna know what they make an hour-Look at the actual contract. Its not hard to find. Ive read this book 4 times in my life.
https://uaw.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/10/64171_UAW-GM-Hourly-Highlights-Revp-11-final.pdf
You are Paid based on the Type of Job you have.. Fork Truck drivers make more than line people, Line Leaders make a bit more as well.
Skilled trades are paid better as well because they are EDUCATED. They have degrees, certifications, ect.
I have friends who have gone through the "education" programs to get into the skilled trades, but GM has put a "hold" on these things, so while they have finished their classes, they dont have a journeymans card or anything that would help them outside of the plant because GM doesnt want to convert them, despite training them. That, i find, very weird.
Bullshit.
Im calling complete bullshit. The only thing i can even remotely fathom is that someone dropped the ball on actually calling an electrition, or that there was more setup than you are letting on. Its also possible that there was another reason you werent allowed to do it, (such as a safety factory of stuff around the machines- im spitballing here) and they wanted to make sure your equipment wouldnt be fucked up by being plugged into a wrong outlet.
however, im still calling bullshit.
Bullshit again. This is just pure bullshit.
While this is kinda true, its not totally true.
I firmly believe that part of all of this is because there is a corruption investigation into the UAW President, and some of his cronies as a diversion tactic as well.
GM has been making money HAND OVER FIST, so they arent all right either.
I have so much more i could type up about all of this, but its 2am, and i have to work in a few hours.
