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  8. Track Newb

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    23 hours ago, TimTheAzn said:

    First part is true, but we are not affiliated with LEAN. We just ride with them occasionally to get Nelsons time. We are treated like any other customer for the most part.

     

    N2 runs way more than just PIRC though. 

    I was commenting on tracks in the immediate Ohio area. Obviously outside this area a bunch of orgs run all kinds of tracks. 

     

    And ok. I didn't know if you guys were affiliated with Lean or EvolveGT at all since I've seen overlap with some of your people/etc from time to time. 

  9. Unofficial Fall 2019 EPIC Ride POSTPONED TO SUNDAY

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    The way I test my air pressure is I ride into a large body of water and see if the tires make the bike float upside down or if I just keep riding along on the bottom. If the bike doesn't float then I need to increase my air pressure. I will say though neutral buoyancy is about where you want it set for track though as you don't want too much air in there reducing the contact patch. 

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  11. Unofficial Fall 2019 EPIC Ride POSTPONED TO SUNDAY

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    8 minutes ago, 2talltim said:

    Yup. I can use every cm of 55 when I run them, a 50 tire it is impossible to run to the edge. Usually have 1/4" chicken nuggets left on them after draggin parts. 

    A taller tire should make you drag hard parts before you run out of lean angle, typically. 

     

    Example - I went from a wider/taller tire on the Grom to a thinner tall tire. I ran out of lean angle on the wider/tall tire beforeI ran out of grip. On the newer thinner tire I run out of grip before I run out of lean angle. Obviously I'd rather run out of lean angle first however the wider tires cause a really bad geometry tearing issue that is not solvable and kills my front tire after 1 race weekend. The difference in maximum lean angle is not much but it's there. Now that I know where that maximum angle is, I can get off the bike more right before that point to lessen the impact on corner speed. 

  12. Unofficial Fall 2019 EPIC Ride POSTPONED TO SUNDAY

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    The reason for running a taller+wider tire is the profile is generally better at full lean and will give a little more lean angle. Tip-in would also be quicker than with a more flattened out tire. You'd get more contact patch out of a taller tire giving you more grip at lean but that's only because you run out of contact patch sooner on a flatter tire when you exceed the tire edge - Lean angle is a bit more limited on a thinner tire but that's fine as you can compensate by getting off the bike more. 

     

    You don't want to exceed the tire edge. :p 

  13. Track Newb

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    11 minutes ago, meadeam said:

    Excellent, I didn't now about N2.  I will check it out!  At a glance, I didn't see any Ohio or Kentucky tracks listed.

    The SV650 is probably the logical choice, if less glamorous.   With things being as expensive as they are, I probably will gravitate toward that option.  I guess I'd rather save the money for more time on the track.

    N2 runs Pittrace, and I think(?) they are affiliated with the org that runs Nelson's now days. Other orgs around the area to look at are Sportbike Track Time, Midwest Track Days, Trackday Winner, Evolve GT and the Mid Ohio PTR program (this track is VERY good-weather-dependent).

    An R6 or any 600 should be fine as a starter track bike, an sv650 as Tim mentioned above would also be a great choice. Heck, even your FZ6 would work. Really you can bring just about any street bike to a novice track day and do fine. What bike you're on does impact your lap times, however a capable rider could take a clapped out beater and give people on brand new 1000's the business. Make sure the bike you bring to the track is in good working order but after that focus on improving yourself, that's where the real progress comes from at the track. 👍

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  15. Random Track Talk

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    I don't think anyone is saying track is superior to street riding, they are two totally different things. I will say that investing myself in track/racing over the last couple seasons has led to a pretty significant amount of growth in my ability as a rider overall (at least I feel like it has, other people can fill in for me whether or not it's true). Something I would not have been able to achieve if I were only riding street. Think of it as combining multiple similar disciplines to make your overall riding ability better and ultimately safer in any environment. 

     

    That said, I have never ridden dirt, and dirt is also an amazing training/learning environment. That's on my to-do list at some point for sure. 

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  23. Random Track Talk

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    4 hours ago, blue03636 said:

    Seriously though, they aren't an issue. 

    This is what I've heard directly from Dunlop and Pirelli reps as well. It just comes down to the amount of rubber left on the tire, as that has a direct effect on how the tire heats up and distributes that heat. 

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