from the quick look i did on the list for shoot and ride, i think only speed triple was the common rider in both these set, and it was for speed triple and twisted we made the ride for 25, I will try to ask others if sun 18 is okay with others, If so we can do this on sun 18 itself, or switch it to 24 Regarding the other rides, i would love to join that when it comes up. Regarding a ride originating in deep south, it will be like 3 to 4 hour slab for most extreme northys, hence i guess this will be an ideal place for neo wing to get together, If this formation of micro groups in a mega group ride works out fine it will be nice experiment to see and can be repeated more often. We already spent lot of time to contact others, and most riders seem to be interested, i wish this thing works out at least once before the end of season.