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I'll be using that road a lot this season.
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I don't even know what to say. If there was something
I could do to be helpful, I would. Best of luck until things
get straightened out and all. Wish I had more to offer.
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I hope more good deals like this start
coming out of the woodwork. My little
500 isn't going to keep me satisfied
for much longer. I just need a more
upright seating position with a seat
height that won't give me a nose bleed.
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It would be fun to ride up there as a group.
Anyone interested in riding up from Columbus
or the surrounding area?
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August 3rd in Columbus for me.
Five seats available that day.
It's a Sunday morning at 8 AM.
There will be little traffic that early.
Somebody else sign up for that
day so we have a couple of OR
members there.
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...I've become cold and numb to the emotional part of it as most in EMS do.
Don't get me wrong though I do my job and try to help but when there no point
and no chance well I acknowledge that and move on unless it's a pediatric, I
still get emotional on those and will work them with everything at my disposal
till we get to the ER I'm not completely heartless.
...I see death on a regular occasion with my profession. It never gets easier.
..Eventually you get numb cause you know what the final outcome is.
I would become numb and callused, and half crazy. I would view life
as something disposable and hope to avoid the reaper for as long
as I cared to live. With the help of mind altering substances, I may
be able to live with the tragedies I encountered daily and hopefully
could still sleep through half of the night. Hats off to everyone who
deals with the passing of life on a continuing basis.
:bow:
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bumpity...
All the listed cities in Ohio still have seats
available for the Basic Rider Course (BRC).
Additional courses available at these locations
are indicated.
All courses are $50. Some Motorcycle retailers charge
$200 or more.
BRC - Basic Rider Course
- 16-hour course
- No experience is needed
- Motorcycles and helmets are provided
- Requires only a valid Temporary Instruction Permit Identification Card (TIPIC)
- Successful completion earns the BMV skill test waiver for a motorcycle endorsement
BRC-RR - Basic Rider Course - Returning Rider
- 8-hour course
- Requires demonstration of basic motorcycle handling skills to continue
- Motorcycle and helmets are provided
- Requires only a valid Temporary Instruction Permit Identification Card (TIPIC)
- Designed for those over 18 years of age who have been riding with a temporary permit for longer than one year (over 1,000 miles of experience) and for experienced riders returning to riding, with or without a motorcycle endorsement, after several years of not riding
- Successful completion earns the BMV skill test waiver for a motorcycle endorsement
BRC-2 - Experienced Rider Course
- 6-hour, one-day, range-only course (no formal classroom session)
- Requires motorcycle license or endorsement
- Use your own 2-wheeled motorcycle
- Passengers allowed
ARC - Advanced Rider Course
- 9-hour, one-day course (Some two-day were listed)
- Requires motorcycle license or endorsement
- Use your own 2-wheeled motorcycle
If you want to be in the next class... But classes are filled:
Try being a "Walk-In". Grantees do not have a standby list.- Any scheduled student not present at the start time has forfeited their seat in the class, as well as their tuition and no refund will be given.
- Walk-ins may fill any “no-show” openings by being at the class location at least 15 minutes before the class starts.
Ashtabula
Canton
Centerburg
Chillicothe
- BRC-RR
- BRC-2
Cincinnati
Columbus
- BRC-RR
- BRC-2
- ARC
Delaware
- BRC-RR
- BRC-2
Fremont
- BRC-RR
- BRC-2
Hamilton
- ARC
Highland Hills
- BRC-2
Hudson
- BRC-RR
Kirkland
- BRC-2
Lima
Marietta
- BRC-RR
Middleburg Hts
- BRC-RR
- BRC-2
Milford
Nelsonville
New Philadelphia
- BRC-RR
Newark
Oregon
Parma
- BRC-2
Ravenna
- BRC-RR
Rio Grande
Salem
Shelby
- BRC-RR
Springfield
- BRC-RR
Troy
- BRC-RR
- BRC-2
Walbridge
Warren
Xenia
Zanesville
http://www.motorcycle.ohio.gov/index.stm
1-800-83-RIDERContact Email: http://MOGen@dps.state.oh.us.
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I like the slow group. I don't want to test my skills on a group
ride and chance ruining the enjoyment of others in the event
I get in over my head and end up bending metal and bones.
After I've put in some track time and gained faster abilities, I
would be eager to up the pace and the excitement.
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Any of you saying you want someone there ever actually watched
someone die? Other than peacefully on pain meds from old age?
I have more times than I care to even try to count. Want me to describe
it for you? Better yet I work M,W,F this week chances are I'll add 3 more
to my count...
Quit being over sensitive selfish clueless pansies until you know exactly
what you are asking for. It's not pleasant or in any way a closure giving
experience and my dying wish is that none of my friends or family are
there to see it much less try to hold my hand and be haunted by it for the
rest of their lives
And for some reason you stay in that line of work, to offer
medical assistance to those in need. There must be a
sense of satisfaction in it for you, to be one that the injured
can depend on to get them the help that they need. I couldn't
do what you do. It would haunt me have to deal with the things
you've seen and had to do in your line of work.
You deal with relatives and loved ones of those in medical need,
mostly at the time of the immediate need. Three years down the
road, how many of those present at the time of death wish they
had not been present, at the side of their loved one, in their
final moments? How many would speak up and say they wish
they were out playing golf instead of being there? And why is it
that we always rush to the side of those about to expire, knowing
there is absolutely nothing we can do, when we could just let it
happen and simply attend the funeral instead?
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Better yet, get training and be self reliant.
Stop your own bleeding.
I can doctor myself to an extent. It's hard
to stop the bleeding on this arm if that arm
wants to hang limp and I can't seem to get
to my first aid kit.
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Sorry. Quotes unquoted themselves the first time.
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And that's perfectly fine, but any time I've been part of a group and
saw someone crash out, (even times when I wasn't riding with them,
or wasn't even on a bike) I immediately pulled over and tried to help.
It's just the way I've been. It's what I see as the right thing to do....
Now whether or not you choose to do the same is your choice.
I'm with you on that. I also would stop if I felt I could do
something or if I was early on the scene. I wouldn't leave
someone to rot in the ditch.
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So the last memory your loved one has of you is watching you die?
That is completely selfish.
I understand your view. But, I'm not wishing for them to
have to suffer through my death without it being their
choice. The chances are great that many loved ones
would prefer to be by your side as you expire, in hopes
of offering some sort of comfort in your last moments.
Is that also selfish on their part, to wish to be there when
you go?
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I also think relying on others to do the right thing for a fallen
rider is a big assumption. What if everyone assumes someone
else handled it?
Just try and stop the bleeding until someone with more
medical ability shows up to assist. Then, get your ass
out of there if you think it's in your best interest.
I would rather ride with you another day than for you to
have cost yourself a big fine by sticking around on my
account. My mistakes are my own. No sense in you
being lynched for something I did.
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I also think relying on others to do the right thingfor a fallen rider is a big assumption. What ifeveryone assumes someone else handled it?
Try and stop my bleeding and once a more
medically qualified person assists, hit the road
and get out of there, if you feel it's in your best
interest. I would rather ride with you on the road
another day than to have to visit you locked up
or have you cost yourself a big fine.
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...Someone else would stay and face the consequences
of their actions....
Consequences of my actions is one thing.
Consequences of your actions is another.
I'm not answering for your mistakes. That's
on you.
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...It seems that no matter how
fast your going on a bike witnesses always
say things like "over 100" or "racing".
And this is part of the problem. Two bikes
riding together over the speed limit can
always be said to have been racing. How
do you defend yourself from that when
three witnesses (family members in the
same vehicle) claim you were racing, even
though you were only going 10 MPH over
the limit, while trying to beat a rapidly
decaying green traffic light?
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The state will fight that you were racing, therefore you
contributed to the other riders death.
If you're in the middle of nowhere, definitely stop and
call a squad... But on a freeway with a ton of witnesses,
somebody else is already dialing and I don't think it wise
to hang around and go to prison.
Just make sure someone dialed up for help before
you bail on me. Then you are more than welcome
to disappear. "Second bike? No, I was riding alone."
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I can understand that logic, I just dont know if I could leave my
buddy behind, dying in a ditch. At that point, youve made your
choices and maybe you deserve some prison time.
We don't know that they were buddies. Perhaps they
were total strangers. As for the other rider crashing his
bike while I was simply trying to keep up, I'm not going to
volunteer to be held accountable for his actions I had no
part of. We all ride fast. But let us all be accountable
for ourselves without our buddies having to pay for our
own bad judgement.
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I would have fled the scene too... You know what happens when 2 bikes are riding over 100mph and someone dies? The other rider is charged with manslaughter and goes to prison for a long fucking time... I love my friends, but dead is dead, if I can avoid prison I'm going to... Plenty of witnesses to call this incident in, nothing the second rider could even do, and no reason to get locked up for it
I'm going to guess that these two were not close buds.
It's possible they met on the street and were simply out
having some fun. I've ridden with new "friends" I met on
the road that day. Close buds would likely stick around
unless the crowd, with a mob mentality and a negative
view of motorcycles, were mumbling loudly, with several
members giving you the stink eye and using words like,
"jail" and "hooligans".
If you had a reason to fear problems with the police, I
would prefer you bailed out and saved yourself while you
still could, once someone else showed up to help. I
would cover for you, if I lived, and say I didn't know
anything about you.
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I may die alone, but except in my sleep,
I would prefer to die in the company of
someone I care about.
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No he actually did knock a girl up and then left her. Then told her if she gave him money for this bike he'd move back in with her.
and never did move back in with her.
So, if this trick works.... Hmmm....
Don't give me ideas. I was sitting on
a nice new Ninja 1000, yesterday.
Joking, of course. Actually, I'm not kind of guy.
Oh finally some personal drama. We haven't had this in a while
It's been a long, cold winter. Nerves are on edge.
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...exiting on Interstate 76 eastbound toward Wadsworth
A new guy from Wadsworth just joined OR two days ago.
http://ohioriders.net/index.php?/topic/104161-hello-from-wadsworth/#entry1379640
Could it be?
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I would be sad if I scuffed a helmet that nice.
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