Hm, lots of food for thought. Thanks guys. I'm in a pretty advantageous position. I work Asset Protection in Wayne county, so, as you could imagine I am pretty involved with the court system. I'm on a first name basis with several prosecutors and many police officers, Unfortunately we don't ever work with the sheriffs office outside of security detail for events. I suppose what I need to know is what is my first step. Honestly, if my record is wiped clean I have no problem eating two points and a fine. I seriously never speed in a car, and I was just trying to beat the thunderstorm home last night. I'll see if one of the officers can tell me if I have any points, if I have none I'll just mail in my fine and accept my 2 points. BUT say I have 2 existing points and don't want these additional two. Who would I talk to first? I'm really debating scheduling a meeting with the Sheriff that stopped me and asking him if I can arrange community service or some form of alternative. Does he even have the authority to withdraw my points, or at this point can I not do anything until I see a judge?