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Those will certainly be the next wheel I get. Likely better than any other wheel I've ever had. JP is only proving how little he knows about me or my family, which isn't such a big deal because I don't ask for anyone to understand it. To assume my knowledge comes from no hands on experience and no actual seat time is laughable, but I'll continue to let him feel that way if it helps him sleep at night... I certainly don't have any trouble. Anyhow, I'm hoping to see everyone Saturday morning at CnC. :thumbup:

Somebody wants to see the world burn.

Nelson Ledges is for sure a nightmare on cars... It's hard on tires, hard on wheels and hard on the cars because of all the different surface textures, road surfaces and curbs. So I don't disagree with you about Ledges. But, I'm speaking in general, the track surfaces are going to be MUCH better taken care of than a public roadway 9 times out of 10. A track wheel is put through a TON of abuse like you're saying, and they're still pretty strong all things considered. But, when they design these wheels, they do it to keep the weight to a minimum while trying to avoid compromising strength. You can't have a strong wheel without added weight, and you can't have a light wheel without giving up strength. It's one or the other and when designing a track wheel, you gotta find a medium. To answer your question about Rotiform, I really can't say as I'm personally not an advocate of their brand. However, that's beside the point, I didn't buy a Rotiform wheel. I bought genuine BBS Motorsport E26 Centers, Barrels and etc. through Rotiform since none of those items can just be sourced by the average joe off the street. Motorsport parts are sold exclusively and they're not intended for street use, and BBS will tell you this. Only part Rotiform had in my transaction was sourcing parts and assembly.

Haha, I think it's more that the fakes copy real wheels and take business from them. While I get that point, there's something to be said about owning wheels that literally nobody else has available to them. Like I said, high maintenance wheels not intended for street abuse.

Well, I don't expect any type of catastrophic failure, but there's a good chance down the road the barrels will develop cracks from being so thin and I'll simply have a flat tire from losing air. It is possible the centers could develop stress cracks, but I'm praying that doesn't happen any time soon. To simply put it, these wheels are very high maintenance and need to be looked after regularly. None of that is Rotiform's problem and they surprised me by going completely out of their way to help, anyway. I don't feel like many companies really do that for a single customer when they deal with thousands of people a day.

Let me tell you why you're literally an idiot: 1. You're comparing a cast single piece magnesium wheel made for street use to a modular 3-piece motorsport wheel intended for track use. 2. You can disagree all you want, but the truth is real motorsport wheels aren't intended for street use. Magnesium is an alloy that is susceptible to corrosion and doesn't do well with heat. It doesn't necessarily bend, but it cracks under pressure. However, it is much lighter than your traditional aluminum alloy wheel. Cracks are common with these wheels and it is often that teams keep multiple centers on hand in the event a face shows signs of fatigue and cracking.. hence the reason for making them front mounted and modular. They're not intended for street driving for many reasons... let me list them off for you: a. Magnesium centers to save weight although weaker than aluminum. b. Thin gauge Aluminum barrels/lips - .23" as opposed to .25", .26", or .28" in some cases that BBS uses. This is done to save weight. c. Less hardware, sometimes in titanium - look at BBS and other companies and you'll notice they use 30+ bolts as hardware on their wheels... mine has 20, to again, try and save weight. If you think that a Motorsport wheel still sounds like a stronger wheel than a cast aluminum or even magnesium one piece wheel, you're a moron. 3. Tracks don't have bridge transitions, potholes, curbs or any ungodly kind of condition you'd find on a public road that would typically slay a wheel like this. 4. My father supports me and my brother in our hobby, and from the sounds of it, he probably knows a little more than you about cars in general. But, he's still years behind my brother and I as far as aftermarket and modification knowledge goes. It seems each year he becomes more and more interested and involved, and I love that we can spend time together enjoying the same hobby. 5. My wheels failed because of defective hardware for one reason or another. The wheels themselves would have been fine if the barrels didn't have stress cracks due to the bolt heads shearing off. Honestly, you should probably stick to backyard poverty Colt builds that end up flipping end to end multiple times... you seem to know quite a bit about that, more than anything else. Good game.

You guys are ridiculous... As my brother mentioned, just because they're more expensive than your typical wheel doesn't make them bulletproof, or any more resistant to failure than any other wheel on the market. That's like buying a Bently and throwing a fit upon any failure because you spend hundreds of thousands of dollars for a car that you feel should never ever break. It happens, it's going to happen, and frankly, I highly doubt this will be the last time. Like stated, some aftermarket street wheels are even being welded to make them a little more resistant to failure. But what you're missing is, those are street wheels and I have motorsport wheels on my hands. These wheels are much more fragile and delicate than your typical wheel, which is due to the magnesium and light weight materials used. Frankly, I'm taking a huge chance even having them on public roads which are anything but glass smooth like most race track surfaces. They're so expensive because they're extremely light and extremely modular and hardly your typical wheel. All of that comes with a price.

Or you mean, I'd actually be the alpha-male instead of some pussy that lets a 20lb puppy run the house. On a serious note, if you haven't had him neutered yet, do it. He's still a puppy, of course he's going to have a lot of energy. Neutering will help, and he'll stop marking his territory if he's still doing that.

I dunno why your pug is so dumb(probably lack of training and discipline), but the two pugs my ex had were honestly some of the smartest dogs I've come across. They have such an easygoing and fun personality, and some even show protective qualities depending on how they were raised. I'm very allergic to dog hair and saliva and I found their shedding to be more than manageable. To be completely honest, I'm not a dog person at all, but I don't think I'd ever consider another breed, personally.

What time does everyone normally get to/leave from Easton?

No.

I'll join in

http://trendysturvs.files.wordpress.com/2014/04/70ff5-untitled.png?w=593 hams on a stick... lol That's not attractive to me.

Didn't realize that I bought a "racehorse." I thought I just bought a really nice car I wanted to enjoy the way I want. Cool story though, thanks for sharing.

Maiden voyage isn't quite the word... more like first actual trip of distance beside driving around Columbus. I probably put close to 2k miles on them before this event occurred. As far as repairing the wheels at the show- Possibly, but it would've just ruined my trip and been a hassle. The barrels were showing stress cracks after disassembly and I don't think that would've been very wise to try and bandaid something like that for 3 hours with new hardware.

You definitely don't want to make holes in the car anywhere. You'd be better off making panels for the entire bottom side of the car so there's no turbulence or drag beneath. I also wouldn't suggest a lightened flywheel as it's used for momentum... you want all the momentum you can keep in that car when cruising/coasting. I would remove the big mirrors for very very small ones, or really anything outside the car that could cause drag. Cover any possible holes or openings with tape and remove wipers etc. over-inflate your tires and get moon caps. lowering the car will definitely help. Lose all the weight you possibly can in the car.

Sawmill Ricers group

CCW just called... they said they have your lug nuts, but I said you were no longer interested. Good day, sir. :dumb:

lolz, and who is doing the "tooning" for wiggs?

shots fired.

Hahaha thanks! Well, funny they post an article like that because when the 964 was released in late '89, people thought it was awful, ugly, and grotesque in comparison to every 911 in history. For years it had been seen as the red-headed step-child, even next to the 993 which I find to be pretty far fetched from the look of the original 911. Now that it's one of the last air-cooled cars around with the traditional looking headlights and etc., Porsche purists are changing their views on the car and starting to really accept them and love them. What it is exactly they don't find attractive about the car is beyond me, but then again this is the body style Porsche I grew up admiring as a child.

Before even considering the car you should have a knowledgable person inspect the damage that could have taken place behind the bumper cover. You have to remember, anyone who buys these cars are fickle about details. If that minor incident is on the title, you bet it's going to kill the resale. Gorgeous car though, and I'm actually pretty fond of the red belts... I thought those only came in cup cars and GT models? Like I said, have the damage inspected and you make a decision on your own from there.

I'm not going to disagree with you about the hardware looking like generic bolts, but I was told this was what was provided straight from BBS and I won't question it further than that. What it comes down to is that either the bolts were from a bad batch or they were simply over-torqued. 10.9 should've been plenty, IMO, but still have no real cause of the failure. Either way, I received different bolts from BBS that are said to be 12.9. We'll see how they work out, I guess.

lol I wish, but I think at this point I learned a lesson. Regardless of what is the actual cause of this failure, I won't be relying on anyone else to build my wheels from now on. Not that I can fault Rotiform in any way, but there's always that extra piece of mind when I do something my self as opposed to letting someone else do it. If it failed after I did it, there's no one else to blame but my self.

Okay so an update on things: The weekend of March 22nd I was headed down to Louisville, KY for a show they call Water By the Bridge to hang out with friends and etc.. This was kinda the maiden voyage for the car as it really hadn't made any trips of extended periods of time so I was carefully prepping the car for any possible scenario on the way down. Anyhow, the trip went smooth until the third hour into the trip and maybe 40 miles out from Louisville. I started hearing what I thought were rocks being kicked up from the road, but it was just an odd and random PING noise that I would hear on occasion and didn't think much of it until I started noticing a vibration. My first thought was maybe the lug nuts had worked themselves loose, so I pulled over on the side of the road and checked all the lug nuts, which were all tight, and thought about what else might cause something like that noise. I decided to get down and inspect the wheels further and lo and behold, I find these laying in my inner barrels http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c8/eightsixgts/Mobile%20Uploads/IMG_2725.jpg This meant the hardware holding my three-piece wheels together had sheared the heads off and my wheels were merely held together by the silicone seal. I decided it simply wasn't safe to continue on so on went my Porsche spare to limp the car the last 40 miles to the showgrounds. http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c8/eightsixgts/Mobile%20Uploads/IMG_3492.jpg Got the spare on and made it to the show and a bunch of people got pictures of the car with the spare on, but I didn't really care.. I just came to hang out with friends and ended up pretty drunk lol. http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c8/eightsixgts/Mobile%20Uploads/IMG_0171.jpg http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c8/eightsixgts/Mobile%20Uploads/IMG_8252.jpg Spent the night in Louisville and then decided to head back in the morning after we grabbed breakfast to cure the hangovers from the night before. Would you believe it, 45 minutes outside of Louisville I started hearing the same PING noise again. Yes, this was the OTHER wheel starting to do the same thing. This time I lost all the air in the tire and had to pull over. So, I was basically stranded 3 hours from home on the side of the road with one spare already on the car, and another flat... I was SOL. http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c8/eightsixgts/Mobile%20Uploads/IMG_0366.jpg I made a couple calls and posted a couple things on the internet looking for anyone with a spare with good tire I could borrow nearby, but nobody was around that could help with a 5x130 wheel. Basically, my dad and brother had to come from Columbus with my two full sized spare wheels to put on the car.... that's love. Can't thank them enough because I would've been sitting on the side of the road for even longer than the 3 hours it took them to make their way down. So, while I'm on the side of the road being pissed off, I receive a text from Brian at Rotiform, who built my wheels, and expressed his concern with my problem and immediately said that he would be sending me two new barrels and all new hardware before I could even ask. In no way could I blame Rotiform for what had happened to me on my trip and it really wasn't his problem at all, but he took initiative by sending me all new parts, free of charge. I couldn't believe he would do something so nice; this was a huge eye opener to me that there still good people out there. This is REAL customer service and I can't thank Brian enough at this point. A few days later I received all of my replacement items, just as he promised, and began disassembling and reassembling my new wheels to get the car back on the road. http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c8/eightsixgts/Mobile%20Uploads/IMG_4850.jpg Sheared off hardware http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c8/eightsixgts/Mobile%20Uploads/IMG_0096.jpg Resealed and back together http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c8/eightsixgts/Mobile%20Uploads/IMG_1700.jpg TL;DR - Went to car show, both rear wheels had hardware failure in the same trip, company went above and beyond and sent me new parts free of charge. Amazing customer service that shouldn't go without recognition.