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I have a blue point (made by snap on) that i got used for 50, it does a good job. If you have acess to a snap on truck route, matco, mac, or cornwell, you can find some good deals in thier bargin bin. These are usually tools that someone traded in on other tools, or repo from someone that lost thier job or just didnt bother paying the man, so he cant sell it new, and just wants to get some money back out of it.