Science Abuse

Best porsche ever made, sure. Best looking, methinks not. I'd rate the 962 before that. We reeeaaly diagree on the 910 (was it even a road-going car?). The GT is the most beutiful sounding road-going Porsche, but I'd say the homologation GT1s look a bit better. The GT3 RS hurts mah eyes, too loud!

The sexiest Porsche ever built. http://www.gag.com/~bdale/pix/mrf0067b.jpg

useless without pics.

Is this question seriously still up in the air? The layout is more like a 904 without a top. The boxer flat engine sits as low as possible, as centrally located as possible.

This would be more akin to a dealership selling a car to a 14 year old without a license, who hit you. That's fucked up, that's illegal, and anyone who engaged in it should pay. They aren't accusing him of selling guns, they are accusing him of doing it illegally. I swear to god, some gun people have to invent their enemies. This is no different than a liquor store owner knowingly selling booze to a minor who had the guy next to him in line flash their ID.

My face leaked, youtube isn't supposed to do that.

You're so stupid, it's painful. Weapons are called weapons because they are tool we use to kill things. What exactly is the design intent behind a gun, penetrating paper targets? Guns kill more people world wide each year than the ocean, that is impressive. You, on the other hand, are pathetic. You hurt your cause more than you help it.

high five Evan. That is the most retarded spin ever spun. You're comparing a device that launches high speed projectiles to a vehicle that occasionally kills people in accidents. BTW, the AK47 has killed (been used to kill) more people in the history of the world than any one thing. More than all other guns, more than cars, more than nukes. Fact Umm.... no, I don't see what I played into. Where the fuck did I say we should ban ricer guns with body kits? My daisy looks more "hard core" than that. You're making things up, I'm done with you.

Or best at it, depends on how you look at it.

Where's your OE MAF? Price?

Anyone who takes the time to read all of that and isn't moved to vommit is a penko commie fascist. Some people need to be in jail, not in office.

Maf?

Nope. You're referring to situations in your own home, though (make sure the wall behind your target is thick enough to stop your shot. ). You're also referring to essentially conventional weapons. You're just as able to protect your home with Mossberg as you are with a Klashnekoff. On the street, if some one intends to kill you, you'll be killed. There's no point in holding you up or assaulting you if they can just as easily shot you in the back and roll you. In this case, conceal and carry wont ave you. Int he event that you're threatened by some one with a gun who's not sure about killing you, reaching for your gun is the quickest way to make his mind up. Why go to the trouble of being judged by 12 when you could just cancel your credit cards and get a new lisense? Shooting some one isn't worth the trouble 99% of the time. Pertaining to uses of a live person that you later intend to kill (bigger problem for women), if they get close enough to touch you, they are vulnerable. Again it is a situation where attempting to pull a gun or knife will get you shot. Your time/money is better spent on a flack jacket and learning to use your hands.

You're right, they're all out to get you. Busted. Perhaps I'm rietterating the things you hear because the things you hear have merrit. Come up with something of my own? I'm not going to make stuff up just to make a case, an argument is only as good as it's foundation. Thus far, the foundation of your argument is that all the libs are gun-grabbing evil people. That's opinion, the shakiest of foundations. "Guns are only for killing people" isn't hysteria at all. I'm not a gun-grabber, and I beleive that concealed weapons are for the sole purpose of killing people. Why? Because there are only 2 reasons for a gun to exist: -Shooting targets -Killing things Last I checked, targets and deer don't run off when they see your gun. The only reason to conceal a gun is to keep people from seeing it. If you don't want people to see it, then it stands to reason that they are your quarry. Of course, you're nto after everybody, you're theoretically protecting yourself against bad people. Still, the gun is there to point at people. The reason I don't like CCW is this; it allows people who are admittedly threatened by somethign to walk around with a very powerful weapon. A mistake made with a gun is extremely costly, and scared people make mistakes. Carry it on the outside where we can see it, and we can avoid you.

*high five* Givent he state of things during the last election, there's a solid chance that some soldiers/reservists did want to vote themselves out of a job It's irrelevent, really, votes should not be tampered with. What was done is a jail-worthy offence.

Sure, but you still get to own guns. Personally I don’t see the need to carry a concealed weapon of any kind, unless you’re planning on doing something sneaky with it. Carry your weapon, but keep it in sight. “Another step in a liberal conspiracy" is paranoia. History has shown the Right to be far more willing to change the constitution to meet it's wants than the left. Besides, I think we’re seeing the left adapt its gun-views for the future to better suit the wants of the nation. They’re realizing that people who want to vote for them aren’t, and it’s because of this and Abortion. Fortunately, it's not going to come up so long as we don't permit our leaders to pass "patriot act" fascism. I'm waiting for something to debate. All you spew is paranoia and partisan h8ership. Waste of time. And that is all he was, a candidate. He was campaigning 24/7, he was not a president and his record showed that. Everything that is coming out now that makes you hate him was being discussed long ago, you and other Bush voters just didn't want to hear it. You put him there twice, based on propaganda that was fed to you. I have yet to find anyone able to come up with a solid logical argument for Bush > Kerry, outside of hardline Christian Pro-Lifers, to whom he pandered directly. Funny thing about that is, he's fallen very short on what he'd promised the christian community, and has done jack-shit about abortion. What's the point of voting for some one who claims to share your views but has no power or desire to do anything about it? Vote for some one who is able to do the job. As it pertains to this election, McCain is probably going to slaughter Obama in the general election, arguing about him is fruitless. My point is, being a Bush supporter (even if you're a 'former' bush supporter) shows that your judgment of a candidate can be flawed from time to time. On the other hand, back during the election years, I took LOTS of heat and verbal assaults for what I had to say about Bush and the direction that he was going to take us, and it turned out to be almost prophetic. That stuff is probably still in the archives. lol

Anyone else going to this? Waited to long, only got tickets for Qualifying in spec-4.

"Kerry won stuff" was only mentioned when referring to the exit poles, the rest was outlining a means in which people people were denied the right to vote based on where they are from (areas packed with minorities). Are you honestly saying "the military typically votes republican, so they don't need their votes counted"? BTW, if you're enlisted, they do know what color you are.

Different office, but sure, if you say so. Thank Ken for setting the bar so low. Dann's a bastard, but the bastardism stayed within his office. The party also wasted no time ousting him. What was it, 10 days start-finish in that scandal? At least he didn't rig any elections and subvert democracy.

I posted on topic

I missed the part where he said he was going to take either away. You still get to bear your arms, even under the ol'ban you could do that. "Our" military, mr. rebel, "our" military. I'd venture a guess that you could outnumber them 10:1 and still get annihilated, our army is more than numbers. 10:1 would be put to better use at the ballots. Think you could choke down your frustration and condense and organize your thoughts into one post at a time? I am willing to give up nothing. I've observed the people on your side of the fence shouting "hero" at a man who spearheaded legislation that directly took your rights away, claiming it was to protect you. The assault ban didn't go that far, it limited your purchasing power, it didn't rob you entirely of the right to own a gun. "Ohhh commie Clinton is takin' our guns, Hero Bush lets us keep'm all AND protects our helpless selves with the Patriot act." My personal view is, you can own whatever you want, as long as you're stable enough to handle it responsibly. If you can't wait a week to buy a gun, you just may bee to impatient to own one. Having a previous record isn't the only indicator of a dangerous cunt. P.S. Stop assuming I know nothing about the subject. My best friend of 18 years is an avid gun enthusiast and is very politically active. I've had real debates about this, and I learn from the other side.

You're right. If it's powered by Chevette it should have been rolled at least 9 times.

Discuss.

Good place to hit a deer. I cant think of anyplace that is considered Delaware that wouldn't present considerable risk at high speed, especially 23. If there isn't a "pull out in front of you" risk, there's crappy road or deer hazard. Save that shit for the Walrus.