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what was that? Where can I get one? I bet it CAN be used for humans.

That is fuckin hilarious. Vrereprezentings Deutschland, yo!

Gay. Not the swap, but the whole show. The baddest sounding motr in the world isn't the the baddest shit when its in a garage reving like Hill'rice'billy. The best sounding stang I've ever heard actualy ranks highly in th ebest sounding engines ever. It was a 347 in a fox that runs AIX in NASA. Who cares what it sounds like at idel, you should have heard this thing howling down Mid Ohios back straigh at every bit of 9000RPM, jesus god that sounded awsome. #1, Porsche GT.

slow and hurts to look at = rice

That is why you spend fourty thousand dollars for a fiberglass and aluminum Elise.

cyst or, ala Clint Eastwood in The Eiger Sanction: Rape

sad thing is, Ferrari is supposed to screen owners. You dont choose to buy an Enzo, Ferrari tells you your alloed. Looks like then need an IQ test.

America, Fuck Yeah

I didn't watch the video. If there is one, its got to fit in what is about a 6" triangle in the middle of the wheel...so prety much useless. Those I've seen have been equiped with harnesses, perhaps they were just for the show cars.

Holy crap thats good to hear! Congrats man!

It's scrap. The Enzo was designed much like an F1 car, in a wreck, the engine breakes away and you are clear of its mass. No airbags, just you in your carbon fibre shell. I've seen 2 enzo crashes so far, and hte cars seem to be doing very well. The first one, there was just no surviving.

I'm a fan of high tech Formula One, road courses, turning, rally, and touring cars....That is bad fuckin ass.

Who cares? You've got similar tatse...identical in terms of cars. YOu met hime because he realy liked your car and wanted one, big suprise that he finaly got one. Why bother worrying about something so meaningless and trivial? What a stupid way to ruin a relationship. People, you're lives are only as complicated as you make them.

No. Republicans are much much better at this then Democrats. Were teh tables turned, and the Carl Rove machine was working against bush, he wouldn't have finished his first term. The dems just dont have the shit'together'ness to mount anything. Getting a unified left wing is like trying to shovel air into a heap. Your other, more long winded post, is dead frickin on....accept this: It's not that simple anymore. Enron exec's didnt raid people pensions because they "out thought" the old folk, they did it because the opportunity was there. Stealing some one's car because they left it unlocked, or cleaning out a house with an open door, is capitalism by your deffinition. We should not have to protect ourselves from other americans. If you're stupid enough to waste your money on a Tornado Air Intake for your cars, then fuck you, yer dumb. But When your company gets bought out, liquidated, and your job gets shipped overseas, that's not capitalism, thats prison rape. You may lean to the other side of the fence, but at least we're both cinical, brother!

That's another good point. But I dont think it's as much of a societal push. The urge to breed is always there. How you go about doing it is where your upbringing comes in. Most of the world beleive in mariage then breeding, but htere are other parts of the world where mothers and fathers take on very different roles. There is a region of south central china where the woman chooses a guy, swaps fluids, the she and her family raise the kid, and pops goes on his way, helping to raise his families kids. Here, we call that Hillbilly, over there its a milenia old standard. Or, look at me. I have a family, I've got a child and a woman whom I often refer to as my wife. But, we're not married, and I dont feel any particular rush to get the state and church to sign off on our family, we dont need their permission. We love eachother and we're only a winning lotto ticket away from perfect. But, why do I call her my wife? We're not married, but thats is the role she has in my life. Girlfreind or Baby's mama dont protray nor do respect to what she is to me, so I go with the word that everyone else uses. So, even when our choices take us outside the normal paradigm of those in our surroundings, we still find it simpler and easier to roll with it a bit, even if its simple dialect. Teh veiw of kids as a burden and a liability comes from on simple problem; Fun. I know I sound like the antagonist of a Dr. Suess book, but hear me out. It's not just fun, but rather the importance of fun in contemporary siciety. How important fun is to you is inversly proportionate to the care you will have for your kids. You can also link the importance of fun with the rising divorce rate. People make alot of impulsive descisions, they seek a mate that is what they want, and not neccesarily what they need. Example: In da club. You see a ten, fuckin ten! She moves in a way that grabs your attion and wont let it go. She looks like fun, she turns you on. You luck out, you make a move and she's yours, skeet skeet skeet. Now, the choose your own adventure book can go a couple ways: A: She's got a personality you cant stand, but you knocked her up. No hope of tolerating a relationship, but you're a papa, and that costs money. The kid is a burden. B: You get to know eachother and find out you have alot in common, fun things in common. You love clubbing, you love drinkin, she gets a kick out of a saturday night street racing, you dont mind her affinity for shopping. You're both great together, pow, you get married. Things are good at first, you do the same stuff, plus a ring on your hand and different taxes. But you're with eachother all the time now, you spend time together that doesn't involve fun, this is where you're more fundemental differences come to shine. But you two still have a great time together when you go out, so all is good enough...You have a kid. Suddenly all that other stuff, the fun stuff, the garnish of life is out. You can go to the club as a couple, some one has to watcht he kid..and resent the other for leaving. Everything that you thought made you a great couple is gone. You're left with the quiet at home stuff, the ideosincrasies that piss eachother off. Add to that the stress of parenthood and the increasing need to stay on budget, no more impulsive shopping, similac takes president over N2o refils. Then you find yourself as part of the 50%+ divorce statistic, and god knows how that will effect the kid. You two cant stand eachother, so theres a custody dispute. If the kid is very young, it's most likely the parent that get it will rase it, since there wasn't much bonding. Point: Base you choices in mate on more then what TV and advertising has told you was important, fun and fuckin'.

No, its not. a far days work for a fair days pay is capitalism. The ability to own your home, and to buy and sell comodities is capitalism. Fucking over whoever you can to take whatever you can is not capitalism. There are many more Enron-caliber exec's out there, they're just smarter about it. The countries middle class is shrinking, and they damn sure aint making the move to upper class. Now more then ever, we see the rich getting richer, and the poor getting poorer. That's not capitalism, that's an Aristocrasy, the very thing our nations revolutionists fought and died to remove from these lands. The needs of the many exceed the needs of the few, there is no nation without a "strong prolitariate". Supply-side fucks them, and rewards those who dont have a problem with fucking them. Who the hell said Ignor them? Fighting terrorism is a job for Spec Ops and the CIA, not general infantry. In the days following Sept 11, Bush annonched to the world that we were coming to Afghanistan to "kick some ass". How strategicaly stupid was that? Did he expect bin laden and his cronies to sit in their tents and wait for it? He then invaded a muslin land and called our troops "Crusaders", how did he expect the region to take that? Whith open arms? There is a smart war on terror, then there is the dumb, ineffective and wastefull war on terror. One of these involves B52s, guess which? Al, No one questioned what you personaly signed up for and why you fight. What I'm talking about is why your bosses are sending you over there. If you want to beleive your commander and chief, that's fine, it's your choice. And it's an admirable one, considering you're a soldier. But there are facts that are not up for debate: -He falsified information to get you and you fellow troops over there. -He had no plan for you after you smashed their pitiful army. -He has repeatedly broken the law and bypassed the constitution you are fighting for. There's also no arguing the work that you guuys are doing over there. Sure, he lied and falsified intel to get you over there to "Find WMD". But there are none, and the humanitarian effort that followed is beond commendable. Iraq should be a much better place when all is said and done...but when will that be? 5 years? 20 year? How many more will be killed for his default cause? The enemy is not getting weaker and is certainly not loosing any of its resolve. My problem is with your bosses, and their misuse of power. The real question is, what is the point? What do you think can be fixed by changing the events that have been set into place. And thats a big problem Conesmasher. We've been effectively tossed into the ocean, choosing not to swim is not an option. This thread has strayed waaaaay off topic though. That'd be something for another thread. This one is getting to be a lock candidate.

Those were all "fair weather" shot, I didn't take the camera out when it was blowing like a hurricane and -50 on the wind chill.

What age groups did he study? I'd be rather curious to learn if conformity is a learned trait, or a natural tendancy. I'd put money on the latter, but there is something to be said for the effect parents have on what their children consider important. Conformity is actualy piped into most kids, but it's billed as "Disciplin". How a lesson is taken is entirtrely up to the perception of the individual. You think you're telling your kid the virtues of self control by punishing deviations from your particular prefered social paradigm, but what the simpler mind of the child is observing and perceiving is simply "If I don't do what they are doing it'll be bad, and I'll be punished." Therefore, they dont realy have self control, they just adopt the set of bondries you established for them. So, do they choose the incorrect line because: A: What remains of human social instinct is telling them "you need to fit in, or no skeet skeet skeet for you!" -or- B: They've come to beleive that life is better when you go with the flow, whether or not its right or wrong. There are no answered questions, just more questions to answer, there is always a "why". I'd opt for A, since I'm a beleiver that there's no escaping your biology, but there is a strong argument for B.

The F40, Ferrari's first stab at a god-car type supercar...and by "stab", I mean an OJ Simpson caliber, almost cuttin' a bitches head off, stab.

There is a presence of tribal tentancies in contemporary society. You see in it anything from small family units, to relgions and political parties. Its so strong that some will find themselves doing what they normaly would not, just because "the tribe" wills it. The easiest example I can think of is caving to peer presure. What other tribal tendancies do you witness in daily life? What do you think motivates it?

Thank god they took the dollar bill out of print, it wouldn't be nearly as fun.

Exactly, it's a shame its all being wasted. Our enemy is increasing in both resolve and numbers. And even though its harder to buy firtilizer and get on planes, it's easy as hell to just waltz into the country. Killing terrorists does nothing to stop terrorism. Tractor, I think you have the highest ratio of post count to damned good info of anyone on this forum. But there are other parts of the country where things have already gone bad, despite this bill not being passed. There are instances where some one will buy up the land at the mouth of a canyon, thus controling all access to said canyon (to anyone other then rapelling nutjobs like myself). You pay to enter their "preserve", just so you can get access to the Forest Service land. It's not something often taken advantage of, but there is great potential for it to happen, especialy since they'll be available to outright privatization.

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