that is the thing you do not get, I never used Otterbein as an example of sending a kid somewhere where they may need a cell phone. Obviously the example went completely over your head, like I have tried to explain many many times, but you keep coming back to me trying to say a kid would need to go there. Mind you, Otterbein is in the middle of uptown Westerville, next to a large park, so 13 year old kids commuting past the campus would not be all that weird, it actually happens all the time. But you already knew everything about Otterbein...