Bersa used to make JUNK. I mean Raven/Lorsen quality stuff years back. They really improved and now in my book they're an A+. I don't own one because I just never got into them, but if I only had chump change, I'd buy one. I consider them to be just as reliable as CZs, Glocks and AK47s. I don't normally give such ringing endorsements, but that Thunder 380 is hard to argue against, especially like Scott says... with the new Critical Defense ammo. I liked their nine model as well, but I have no experience with the 45. We have one at work, but it's the first one I have handled. I wouldn't see any reason for it to be anything less than the Thunder 380 line-up. I took it apart and closely checked fit and was impressed.