Alot of the growers/cloners are doctors. Any place in california that sells medical marijuana has a doctor in house. Where do you think the " good weed came from"? Some of the clones you buy are from plants genetically mixed with plants from, africa, china and are over 25 years old already. The best growers in california are doctors hands down. Nobody can afford the shit they have acess too. Hps systems, hyrdoponics,outdoor ,led have nothing on it. The weed i grow is 100 times better then anything in ohio because i use clones from the doctors, what they grown is on another level. These are the guys who own the world seed banks, nothing gets better.