Tim, you are too smart to not see the difference.
Ryan, get me some measurements of your clearance and I can see if my jack will fit under your car for future reference.
Name: Dixie Normus
Really?
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I'd agree with you regarding the new 3. I think it is ugly. Can't comment about the cts vs ats as I haven't seen an ats yet in person.
GM has a history of publishing very hard to reproduce times. I remember the C5 Z06 was almost always .2-.4 slower than Chevy released, in almost every article, comparison, etc.
I'd be interested to know the above as well.
Welcome to entry level luxury prices. This is 2012 people. Not the nineties. Cars are getting more and more expensive. Loaded cts, a4 and new 328s are touching 50k.
Ats v for 50 to 55 would do well. Would compete with the new a3 s3 and rs3 which will have similar pricing. Maybe a bit cheaper actually.