Never but that won't stop me from practicing nonstop. Other then wifey and video games guns are my other love. I spent way too much on ammo for it to matter anymore. I don't really care about $1 a round it doesn't bother me. Why do you think I have a shitty car but own a lot of video games and guns? If .308 would be easy to find or about as easy as 7.62 nato it is a strong choice. From what I have read up on so far I am really liking the Remington 700.