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I thought the same..... being as it was the most recent thing and it seemed to happen right afterwards. But.... if you removed all wires and any connection to it with the main panel then It should have no effect. Thats why i was asking if it was underground maybe he hit the service cable somehow.... but since its all ran through the house that really eliminates that as being an issue. I've done some jobs/service calls before to fix a certain thing then a day or two later get a call saying a whole seperate thing isn't working now..... it had nothing to do with what i did but it sure was a hell of a coincidence that it messed up too. Just crazy timing. Sent from my SM-G920P using Tapatalk

Ground loops typically only effect control/low voltage things or electronic devices. Normally on higher voltage things you really cant have too many grounds.... it all goes to the same place. The other thing is that the house has been fine for so many years and now all the sudden the issue has happened, i dont think any of the recent installs would have created a ground loop or caused anything like this to happen. Sent from my SM-G920P using Tapatalk

Ah ok, yea it should definitely have its own breaker..... how far underground does it go from the jbox to the garage??? Sent from my SM-G920P using Tapatalk

Yea i understand the meter on pole thing thats fine just wasn't sure which way they did it. Hmmmmm so there is a main breaker at the pole? Pics of inside and out would be good but if its to much trouble just the outside is better than nothing. The garage feed, its coming from the junction box at the house? Or at the pole? Sent from my SM-G920P using Tapatalk

The meter is mounted on the actual pole and not on your house???? Hmmmm so.... aep tested the line to your house only and said that was good.... Now it does make sense..... if you could take a picture of the junction box im real curious to see what ut looks like..... there is no breaker in your house to shut the garage off????? If there is no breaker protecting the line going out to the garage then this is more than likely the issue.... something has happened to that wire and is causing all your problems.... Pretty sure it should have a disconnect there at the house to be able to shut it down in case of any issues..... if it did you could shut it off and figure out if it was the issue or not very easily..... In order to test it someone will have to pull the AEP meter disconnect power to the house and undo whatever kind of splice they have in that junction box.... then you can run resistance tests on that wire to see if it is ok or not.... or use a megger, unfortunately i dont have a megger but should be able to figure it out with my fluke meter.... or just leave it disconnected rehook the power to the house reinstall the meter and see if you get any more surges. If not you'll have to run new wire to the garage and i would also install a disconnect at that same time. Sent from my SM-G920P using Tapatalk

Can you explain the garage thing a bit more??? The wires come out of the meter to a junction box or something????? Then go underground to say a pole building???? To feed a panel out there???? Sent from my SM-G920P using Tapatalk

LOL careful now.... dont plug the typewritter in.... or we may lose all history as we know it... bahahahh Sent from my SM-G920P using Tapatalk

If you dont have a disconnect outside the hise before going into your panel it should be a 3 conductor wire going from thr panel into the house, 2 hots and a bare neutral. The ground can be done 2 ways really.... running a single copper wire to a ground rod from the panel (everything would be bonded in the panel then) or by running the single copper wire into the meter and bonding it all there. Sometimes they will use the copper wire line as a ground also...... either of those ways is fine though. Im a licensed electrician been doing it for about 15 years now.... i consider myself pretty good but this problem seems to be intermittent now.... it kind of sounds like moisture/water might have something to do with it.... hopefully this last guy can figure it out.... If not i may be able to come take a look.... at this point id consider it more of a personal challenge to figure it out hahahahahah. Best of luck hope he figures it out. Sent from my SM-G920P using Tapatalk

Wow..... thats crazy. You have some balls for sure hahahahahah. Damn... so close though what 195?? You could tell the car was starting to bounce from the camera.... wow man your lucky for sure. Awesome video.... Sent from my SM-G920P using Tapatalk

Yep.... if an arc fault was bad it should only effect the circuits directly tied to it.... and typically they will trip out if anything is funny, they are very sensitive. Never heard of them doing anything like the issues you are having... Sent from my SM-G920P using Tapatalk

Honestly.... morrow county not having codes doesn't matter.... its code pretty mucv everywhere else and people dont have these sort of issues..... it really sounds like a feed issue because the whole house is acting wierd..... You said you only have what 6 arc faults or so???? Probably for all the bedrooms and smoke detectors? Anything else will have no effect from the arc faults.... You was talking about the microwave making the fan spin faster? After doing further research it made a little more sense to me..... the microwave should be on its own circuit seperate from the bedroom fan which is probably on an arc fault. When you ran the microwave it probably caused a phase imbalance from the neutral not having a gooe connection somewhere... im guessing those two circuits are on seperate phases.... when the microwave was turned on it caused the voltage to spike on the opposite leg which made the fan spin faster..... At least thats a theory that made sense to me..... The ground rod for the hot tub shouldn't matter.... and if im not mistaken is actually a bad idea.... the hot tub panel is considered a sub panel which means it should have all its conductors going back to the main panel and have seperate grounds and neutrals (which from the way you described the install it sounds like its correct) if you add the ground rod to that panel and something shorts out it could bypass the breaker its supposed to trip because its not going to the correct ground path..... As far as them testing the lines.... i thought the only way to check for small shorts and things was to hook up a megger to the lines which if they did that they would have had to disconnect all wires going to the transformer and to the meter..... Sent from my SM-G920P using Tapatalk

Was it wet or raining when the issue was happening??? Sent from my SM-G920P using Tapatalk

It is possible that the wire may have gotten messed up. I almost always recommend running conduit from the house to the pole when doing things like that..... They should be able to put some sort of meter on the lines to monitor the voltage and see the dips.... As far as the arc faults..... if you've never had any issues with them i woulf leave them alone. When they first came out they were giant pieces of crap.... and i still say they are just a big money scam from the manufacturers. But.... the new codes pretty much mandate everything in the house on an arc fault, the newer ones are alot better and can actually prevent issues from happening. Least it sounds you got a tech that is trying to figure it out... Sent from my SM-G920P using Tapatalk

Unfortunately they rarely will take the blame for this sort of stuff.... and even if they do good luck getting them to pay for replacing anything. It's a shame like you said we pay these company's all this money for a service and when things like this happen they want to try and shove the expense down our throats. Let us know how it all turns out.... im interested to hear what they find/do. Good luck, maybe just for the sake of things and to prevent further damage..... start unplugging your valuable devices and turn the breakers off to anything thats not really necessary..... Or..... if your already planning to use your insurance anyway..... plug in some more old junk stuff you want replaced and let it rip.... hahahahahah Sent from my SM-G920P using Tapatalk

No digging for the new wire installed to the sub panel??? Sent from my SM-G920P using Tapatalk

This??? Sent from my SM-G920P using Tapatalk

What kind of service do you have? Overhead or underground? Any construction/digging goin on lately? Sent from my SM-G920P using Tapatalk

This all sounds fine, probably 2-2-2-4 wire. If there was any issue with this like you said just shutting off the 100A breaker should make any issues stop.... Sent from my SM-G920P using Tapatalk

How did you test this? With an electrical meter? 1 lead on the neutral/bare wire then going to each hot leg??? Sent from my SM-G920P using Tapatalk

Losing a neutral won't typically fry things..... will just make the voltage lower and things won't work..... You say you had the whole house panel changed out??? Or just a sub panel installed for the hot tub? Sent from my SM-G920P using Tapatalk

Also.... as much damage as this has caused you should probably get your insurance involved. Sent from my SM-G920P using Tapatalk

Most of the time this is an AEP issue.... as in there transformer is messed up or a wire feeding the house got hit... but that would be more of a low voltage issue.... your stuff sounds like an overvoltage.... Sent from my SM-G920P using Tapatalk

What do you mean the two legs seem to fluctuate? Did you use a meter to check the voltage??? Sent from my SM-G920P using Tapatalk

Not gonna lie.... you really shouldn't have any issues and your right if the breaker is off the screw terminal is not hot and shouldn't be an issue.... But the buss behind it and the breakers above/below it are all still hot. Anything can happen especially if you don't know what your doing or aren't very confident. In residential panels i don't really ever worry about much happening.... hell have shorted a ground out a time or two even..... years ago. But its not like the panel just explodes and decinigrates everything in front of it.... typically just melts the wire.... The rules on working on electic hot now a days are pretty strict and the equipment you have to wear is alot.... honestly the only time I've really worn the required gear was when i was turning back on a 12,000volt switchgear that had tripped out because of a "squirrel" down the line..... that was a bit scary lol. Sent from my SM-G920P using Tapatalk

Theres a place in Hilliard called Tubular Techniques, 3025 Scioto Darby Executive CT. 6145294130 is there number. They should be able to handle it and there prices are good. Sent from my SM-G920P using Tapatalk