errrrrr why would I debate with someone who doesn't make any valid points and won't back up his non-sensical claims? You're not debating you're making up shit, regurgitating talking points or both. Last time I got my paper work from the VA I was still a vet, my wife is a vet, my Dad is a vet and large number of our friends are active duty and vets. I don't need to drive to Cinci to hang out with more like they are some sort of oddity or side show.