walther_gsp

Ok, then pass along a message for me then.

"Your Dad says if you buy these he will beat your ass in a snowbank like he did when you were a kid."

FYI I'm pricing a suppressors for him

and I told him to buy the XCR

Interesting, I've always wondered what the athletics program actually "costs" the students, athletics, etc. Not sure if that made sense, but basically if they are able to pay for their coaches salaries from their ticket sales, televised games, soveniers, etc.? Or if they end up using tuition money on top of all of that.

I went to a private school, and didn't look at any state schools, so I don't know if they have a clause were tuition $$ can't be used to pay coaches or what.

Any idea?

If I recall correctly, Football/Baseball pay for the rest of the Athletic Dept programs (including all those olympic sports that no one cares about, like synchronized swimming and shooting sports). I don't believe regular university funding went there. At least when I was in school and participating in varsity athletics.

Heard various rumors. All still rumors at this point.

Same here.

F U D

They closed a plant a while ago. Soros has no connection to Cerebus. Please don't post internet rumors

i might be selling my p22, actually. you want? i kinda want to get a ruger 22/45 lite instead ever since walther_gsp (who inexplicably only likes glocks... what a doofus) let me fondle his

Hey dummy, I don't have a 22/45 lite. I have a 22/45 with a tactical solutions upper.

Stop by an see any of the DD or Legion AR's?

I stopped by Daniel Defense. Nothing really new or Earth shattering there.

Most of the AR makers indicated all of their product output for 2013 was already accounted for. I spoke to one of the big 4 machine shops that does everyone's lowers and they quit giving estimates for new orders all together.

Can I go with you asshats next time?

No

Any word on when Sig 224's will be available? It was introduced last year and still not out to dealers.

I never trust time frames by manufacturers at shot, too often stuff doesn't hit the shelf for a year or more.

I have seen the YouTube reviews and looked up the specs. How does the Glock30S compare to say a 23? Caliber I understand but anything that is just above and beyond?

It is a g30 SF (short frame) frame on a 36 slide. It allows you to use some holsters for the 19/23 and is a thinner package for CCW. I carry a 36 now and if I was wanting to stick with 45 for my carry piece, I'd be tempted to switch for the extra mag capacity (10 vs 6).

The DPMS is a lr 308 with a Leupold Mark 4 scope on it.

If thats the one for 2600, then it's not a bad deal. Usually 1200ish for the rifle, depending on the MK4 it's only slightly higher than usual or spot on for price.

It was a fail. Legs on the scope were too short. It was hitting on the rail and out of alignment. Last I saw him he was otw to fff to get the higher mount.

Scotts dads place is a pretty nice setup. Can set up 200 yards.

Bummer. What height rings did he have originally? I plan on having him take it out to 1000 yards. Still haven't made it over to Scott's parents' place. Maybe the next time he's back in town.

Kid just got an fnar, gonna shoot it tomorrow.

I seriously think I talk to him more now that he's on a gun buying frenzy then when he was my boss.

FYI, I promised to take him out to stretch that things legs out this spring. Make sure he keeps you in the loop on that trip.

Some guns, by their design should not be dry fired. Many rimfires, particularly, can be problematic but most modern firearms do not suffer any ill effects whatsoever from dry-firing.

Quoting this because it needs repeated.

Your only concern should be to check your gun to see if there is damage potential. If there is, or you just don't believe me, spend the $10 and buy some snap caps. Then you have zero to worry about. FWIW, I dry fired the shit out of a $2500 Walther GSP .22LR match pistol (the kind you see folks shoot in the Olympics or the World Cup) 5-6 days a week for 6 months of the year at practice all 3 years I shot for Ohio State and never once damaged it. This is a gun that they warn about damage potential. I pulled team armorer duty, and only once did I replace a firing pin. Given the age of the pistol and how often they were shot, I'd attribute it to exceeding its service life not damage from dry firing

Dry firing is not only ok, its generally recommended as it helps build muscle memory without the disadvantage of recoil. The old perfect practice makes perfect.

If a handgun, it will be a revolver. His wife has weak strength and cant work a semi

Maneuvering around a house w a long gun is my concern, at any age. But again, I have ZERO experience.

Light mount foregrip? Huh?

Weak strength? So how is she with a heavier double action trigger pull on the revolver? Or the weight of it? It may work for them just fine, but that could be an issue too. A loaded semiauto in a quick open safe could be a viable option.

The key to all of this is try all the options and see what works best for them and where their comfort level is.

Now... Back on topic. Shotgun vs revolver for home defense. Shotgun better, even in this scenario?

For a 73 year old, I would generally say shotgun. The reason I say this is a two handed long gun is likely to be more stable for them and easier to aim (fyi anyone who tells you that you don't need to aim shotguns for self defense is an idiot). Depending on his health/strength, it may be too heavy and a semi auto pistol may be better.

If you could borrow a 20 gauge and a 12, have them shoot 20 gauge buckshot and 12 gauge reduced recoil and see which suits them best.

Also try having them maneuver through the house with a long gun to see how easy/hard it is for them.

And by all means, buy a light mount foregrip.

hell yeah, some "home alone" action going on there...

exactly. That should show how silly the suggested tactic is.

Most tactical trainer types teach the following tactics (caveat, there is likely newer stuff that I'm not as up on):

1. illuminate, identify, shoot, move, unilluminate

or

2. illuminate, identify, unilluminate, move, shoot.

There are pros/cons to a weapon mounted light. Personally, it was only recently I started using them on pistols vs a handheld light. Handheld lights are pretty useless/hard to use with long guns (without duct tape).

Pros

Always there ready to go

You don't need to change your grip on the gun to use them.

Cons

When identifying your target, you are always pointing the weapon at them. This means you could cover someone with your muzzle that you don't really want to.

New holsters

Modifying your shooting grip

Leave the hall light on?

Never been a fan of weapon mounted lights in a home defense scenario. Better off putting a bright flash light on the dresser and waiting for the perp to enter the bedroom. He immediately tur.s his attention to the light on the dresser and you can be on the other side of the room drawing a bead on him. That was the suggestion from my ccw instructor.

Why even use the gun in that scenario? Why not just have a tripwire that triggers a bucket above the door that dumps big rocks on the guy? Afterall, that's about as gimmicky.

^^ This. Buddy at work who have been in combat says you shoot for the muzzle flash or just below it in low light. Gun mounted light the same. I was told to hold it away from your body off to the side a bit.

Edit or get a shotgun and forget the light.

How are you going to identify the target in low/no light if you forget the light?

Also, did your buddy say what he did with HIS weapon mounted light in combat? Is this the same buddy that had the questionable claims of being high speed?

While holding it away can be a valid tactic, doesn't work for rifles or shotguns very well and you give up the ability to have a 2 handed grip on a pistol.

The common tactics for using tactical lights are : illuminate, identify, shoot, move, unilluminate

or

illuminate, identify, unilluminate, move, shoot.

Lasers are for no low shooting. They are not there to improve marksmanship.

The question to ask is "will this work better for me in low light than a set of night sights?".

I usually send people to my buddy for CCW classes these days vs dealing with the hassle of them myself (specifically, organizing them). This has backfired. Yesterday, I ended up having to show up to my buddy's class to help teach the range portion due to the large class size.

I did the same thing. Except mine ended up picking out a $1000 STI.

Could be worse. Your buddy could've set you up for it.

A coworker's wife took a CCW class from me and was having trouble with the sights on her gun, so I lent her my TRP. She instantly developed a taste for pricey 1911s The "fuck you" text I got was pretty funny. I think that's only cost him 2400-3000$ so far.

That's my point. It's registered as an SBR, not an auto. Ohio doesn't consider it an auto until you insert a 31+ clip.

It's the dangerous ordinance classification that is relevant. The criminal statute isn't possession of full auto, its dangerous ordinance.

Since SBR's are classified as DO by having NFA paperwork, they can have the 31+rd mags.

This has been held up in court in State of Ohio vs. Timothy Terrell.

I see...I have a borrowed MBUS front side and I had an old Simmons red dot that I mounted up for shits and giggle. The front sight is taller than the dot is when centered when co-witnessing and no the post isn't adjust way high. Kind of why I asked my question.

Riser mount

Here's a related question, what about co-witnessing with your fixed/flip up sights? Would this change anyone's selection on optics?

Mounts yes, optics most likely no. You can co-witness most stuff out there. It just depends on where in your FOV do you want the co-witness. The Eotech model I have is 7mm taller to push the co-witness into the lower third of the optic FOV. You can use different mounts to accomplish the same thing with an aimpoint, or std height eotech.