Putty crashed at hocking but yeah I had forgot about it until he mentioned it to me a few days later after my post. He also mentioned a few others that I had forgot including your crash on 555. Actually, I think it was 555 where I ended up in a field behind Carla and one of Brad's friend. Follow the leader mentality was the reason for mine, Putty's, and Carla's crash. I dont think I knew you yet when you went down or why you crashed. I think its safe to say that follow the leader mentatity is also what got you, Shawna, and Steph tickets for 90+mph that day coming back from hocking. My whole point was that big group rides have much more of a probability of a wreck whether its ohio riders or not. The follow the leader mentality and "get there before the other guy syndrome" causes way to many people to get in over their heads, me included.