Sources.. are you kidding, It has nothing to do with being a jackass or not.. Large groups are bad ImmK Lets see, 2 years ago, large group apple valley.. bluewhite brand new CBR.. crashed Apple Valley once again and Justin went off the road - Not a crash but only because he knows how to handle a bike. Asian rob - totaled the 600 2 Years ago, Brads and Jmacs friend on 929 at deals gap Last year, hocking. the bike you mentioned. the guy on the cruiser, and Travis went off the road, and the other guy that ended up with brain trauma.. Last year, out east, charles crashed (not putty) and now has the zx10 Last year, Bannanas at deals gap Pedro went down last year Dont act like just because they did not have a screename that it has nothing to do with the ride being organized from this site or with members of this site. Notice I didnt even count the crash with the drain plug that came out causing stephan to go down. Also didnt count the number of times that someone has almost taken me, putty, zorro, bannas, shawna, or steph out because they were showing off or trying to keep up. Hell, Ive told a few people to quit phucking around just from quaker to TacoBell because they damn near hit me or shawna, Putty has done the same The point is,, Large groups when they have gotten together have seemed to have an 80% crash rate.