john if you want a seat that will blow both of those out of the water then send your seat off to http://greatdaytoride.com/Home_Page.php when i had my R6 i sent him my seat. and now i have a sargent on the VFR and i will say that my r6 seat was far more comfy fill out the order form.. which includes Year, make, model of bike_____________________________________________  Riders seat modification:      YES    NO       Supracor "LD" upgrade on Riders Seat:  YES   NO  Passenger seat modification: YES    NO       Is riders seat to be lowered:                   YES   NO   Your Height_______Your weight_______Your pants inseam______Passengers weight______ Do you use risers?  YES  NO     If yes, what is rise_____________and pullback_____________                  What is your normal riding position?      Up on tank        Back on seat Special instructions:_______________________________________________________________ _______________________________________________________________________________ make sure to get the LD mod and take a picture of you on your bike in your normal riding position and email it to him, helps him customize the seat to you even better. the other great part is .. its far cheaper than a sargent or a corbin, and is alot nicer ride. i think i had like $125 in both front and rear seats on my R6, thats including the shipping. he gurantees a 2 day turn around  you wont be dissapointed. i will be sending my stock VFR seat it to be redone. ill probably be selling the sargent