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His business model rests (rested?) on the fact that you can't simply look at your favorite picture (or 5 pictures) and buy those for half the price of his full CD of pictures that he offers.

You paid $60, got a bunch of pictures, maybe only 5 worth paying for. Now you pay half price for that.

Unless he doubles his customers, his original business model was probably superior. For him, not the consumer, of course. I think this was Todd's underlying point. Let the dude do what works for him.

Now imagine yourself as the consumer of his photography. You will go, you will talk to him, he will tell you about his $60 CD offer but also about the new "see before you buy" offers.

NOBODY will be pre-paying for CDs, or very few people.

This introduces a number of problems for him - the fact that people will spend less by picking out what they want, the fact that potential customers could now spend nothing after seeing his pictures of them (possibly compared to what their buddies got on their 7.2mp Sony), the fact that people put things off and forget when there is time between immediate desire and purchase, etc.

Like I said, in my little economic world, he has probably dropped his revenues with his new pricing structure.

I think you are making too many assumptions here.

First, you are saying that people are willing to pay $60 for a CD. Especially when they ask "How many pics on that CD are of me?" and the answer is "I have no idea". Many people may say screw it, I its not worth my $60.

Second, you are assuming that he needs double the customers to equal the revenue he would get from $60 a CD. So basic case would be that 10 people choose the CD option, which would be $600. So then you are saying 20 people will need to choose the $30 for 5 images to equal his $600. Some people may chooses only 1 pic, some 4, 5, 10, who knows...

Too many assumptions. If the $60 per CD business model works for him, great. But if he doesn't try a different pricing structure, like the one to VW151, then he may be missing on some potential customers and $$$

Unless he doubles his customers, his original business model was probably superior. For him, not the consumer, of course. I think this was Todd's underlying point. Let the dude do what works for him.

I would agree if he tried other selling at different price structures and 1 CD, $60, sight-unseen is what brings him the most $$$. But no one knows.

I think the original argument was correct in that a lot of other people sell their pics after everyone can see them and why doesn't this guy.

Paying that $60 may make you feel robbed.

that seems like a bad move to me

I would imagine that most (median) of his customers will now spend $30 or less, rather than the $60 minimum before.

Unless he is able to DOUBLE the amount of customers that he gets to purchase pictures from him, he's probably going to bring in less money.

Anyone disagree with that?

I think it all depends on how many pictures per rider and how many people are willing to pay that amount. Its basic supply/demand based on his business model.

If you take the $60 per CD model, sight unseen. Many riders may not be willing to pay that amount because a) you dont know the quality of the pics and b) you dont know how many of you are on that cd.

So lets say he only sells 4 CDs at one track day.

4 x $60 = $240

Now with the "$20 per image, $30 for 5 images $50 for 15 images," model

more people may be willing to pay that amount.

Now lets say 10 people are willing to pay for individual pictures.

Even if the 10 people only pay for 1 image a piece thats $200.

If half pay for 5 images and the other for 1 thats $250.

Sounds like all he cares about is the $$$$. Paying for the CD, at the track without seeing the pics, is a guaranteed $60 in his pocket. Now charging $60 per picture after seeing them is a load of crap. If he does have his MBA it doesn't look like he understands economics 101, supply, demand and equilibrium.

Glad you were able to talk him down and get a reasonable price for the pics you wanted.

Another dumb idea coming out of California.

I like how the article stated that they thought it was an April Fool's joke. Yeah, the joke is on Cali.

Where were all you drop-in-wanting assclowns last week when we rented out the rink and had an Ohio Riders hockey game?

*grumble*

+1

Yeah, no shit. You guys missed a good time.

Is the open skate a scrimmage like a drop-in practice? Or just to mess around with the puck?

I know yota was planning on being out of town sometime early next week; I asked him about tire work and he said he'd be away. Dunno if he was leaving as early as tomorrow though.

I might be able to get one or two people. My roommate was interested but he's not big on the idea of playing unless he can bum a helmet off of someone. My supervisor at work apparently plays for the womens club hockey team and said she'd be up for a game, so I can call her tomorrow if we need people

I think I have an extra helmet if he needs one. Its probably about 10 years old or so, but I have a huge melon so it will fit anyone.

This sucks, its always so hard and sad when a fellow rider loses their life, especially someone on this forum and who knew so many people. Call your family to tell them that you love them or your friends just to talk. Every time we take a ride, we take a risk.

RIP. Kenny.

Wahoo! Just 2 more days.

I have a few extra sticks, set of shoulder pads and I pair of skates size 10.5. They skates need to be cut though.

Still only have 1 extra skater coming.

Should be a good time anyways.

Good looking out. I have Progressive but Im going to call up State Farm and see what they can do. Sounds like people have had luck with them.

That's more or less what I figured. I'll just be rocking the D-league minimum required padding then

Haha, and I will be rocking the D-league skating skills.

I think I have a few right-handed sticks lying around that I will bring. Also, I think I have an extra pair of skates size 11. I am going to check this weekend to see what I have in the garage.

I got one extra skater coming with me so far.

Loving the white scheme.

Sent ya a PM. This should be a good time. Let me know if you need more people to play, I could send a few emails out.

how many people are stupid enough to actually pay 6k for a 05 katana though?

Stupid enough if you are willing to ride with sandals, shorts, t shirt, and your visor up.

You can but the awesome chromed out 1000rr he is riding for only $16,500. Bling, Bling

http://www.landlperformance.com/new_vehicle_detail.asp?veh=20380&pov=1028325

Count me in. If we need more skaters, I might be able to get a few.

PM sent.

If you are looking for just mixing/sampling, go with Traktor. For creating your own music, Fruity Loops is the way to go.

I messed around with both of these and Traktor was pretty easy and straight forward. Fruity Loops is immense. There is some much shit you can do with it.

^^^^^^ I am kinda in the same boat as Jarvis

Being 6'3 200lbs, my 600 doesn't always have the power I want. I love the ability to be able to flick it back and forth, but as for speed coming out of corners and traffic, I am wanting more. And when I double up with a porker, my 600 now feels like a 250.

Granted I will probably never use the full power of a 1000 on the street, but it would be nice to have the power/weight ratio in my favor.

:lol:

Stop having boring tuna, so you can stop having a boring life!

Wrecked once. It was a newbie mistake the first year I had my motorcycle. It was morning and still cold outside, I was leaving to ride to work and hit the gas too hard when starting to turn right. Bike came out from underneath me and slid for about 20ft on its right side. Frame sliders saved most of the damage, but new right fairing, bar end, and mirror.

Almost wrecked once on a group ride. Came into a left hand turn too hot, got spooked and looked straight ahead as I slammed on the brakes. Saved it about 3 inches from going down a hill into a forest full of stuff that wasnt good for me or my bike.

Good luck man. Thanks for showing us the ropes of 22 and letting us crash. Good riding with ya.

I dont think that kid has to worry about taking his driving license test.

before you check for sticky throttle cables, see if the grip is rubbing against the handlebar weight. That will produce enough friction to cause sticky throttle. If it is touching, roll the grip back away from the weight just a bit and check the throttle then. if there is still a problem, then check for throttle cables (much more work).

I would double check this too. If the bar weight is screwed in too tightly it would rub against the grip, causing the throttle to slowly move back to Closed.