Moto-Brian

Can't believe you didn't end up with a boyfriend named Pedro in a Brazilian jail... Or at least in a stew made up from the tribal people in the jungles down there. Unlucky bastards we were on that whole deal...

Yota- I'll be at Pony this morning. I'll bring the lid in case you can meet... Give me a call.

They can take the VIN# and proof of ownership to a dealer and they can cut a key. Some may need the numbers off the ignition switch, but any time they can provide proof of ownership, they're good to go. Dealers just too often get people in there asking to make keys for a bike with an ignition switch only. To distinguish between someone who stole a bike and someone who owns it, they ask for proof of ownership. Some shops don't have the key cutting tools anymore and can only buy blanks to be cut... You just need to ask around...

Xaus lid is tentatively sold. I am willing to take offers on the other ones. Again, have some new ones coming and need rid of these!!!

Only in SS classes. You can run wave or aftermarket in any SB class... Wave rotors (good ones at least) make a big difference. The feel is more precise and the wear is better... Not a huge difference, but better than stock...

That's not a bulge in my pants - it's only a pack of Rolos. Seriously. I'm serious. Quit touching my Rolos!!

I'll copy and paste... Thanks. It'll hopefully save some trouble to those who might think he's a decent guy.

I think we're good... I won't get all mushy, but we came close to spooning!!

Just look us up at the track. I'd be glad to help if I can. I know Drew will, too... Bring all your buddies. I think it is great getting more street riders up to the track to help them become smarter and better riders overall...

Thus, what seperates you from riders like NinjaNick... You are welcome to join us at Mid-O and even if you can't, come by since it isn't all that far from you. By the way, wasn't I talking with you over those FZR forks? My buddy has yet to get back with me. I think I forgot all about it, honestly. If he has them, consider them yours for nothing. Sorry for it being so late and all...

Also, consider bolting the stock stuff back on - unless the aftermarket stuff was damaged beyond repair. BUY IT BACK!! Buy it back. Should be about $4k or less. You can turn it into a track bike. No bike is too big for the track. It's egos you need to worry about being too big. It would make a great bike. I see a lot of good riders on the CBR1000. Handles well...

Now Yota... You're gonna make the Ninja mad... Go to the other thread where you belong. you ignorant fuck...

That's the thing. I know you can go faster. You know it, too. However, what I do each time is to focus on certain spots on the track. Focus on the Keyhole, off of 7, the Carousel, etc. Reason being is that you may have a fast lap time in the works, but 3/4 the way around, you get slammed with traffic and cannot make it by w/o an aggressive race pass. We'd pull you in a minute if you did that... But, you get the idea. I think Drew has seen the light about that, as well. You just cannot safely try and string fast consistent laps together w/o causing issues with the other riders. It's also great practice for any endurance racers. It really lends a good amount of traffic to learn to pass through cleanly and safely. Endurance is a matter of attrition at times and getting practice going through the crowd is something that can help...

Yes, Mid-Ohio. But again, track day pace... Race pace is obviously a lot quicker. Not a lot, but quicker... 1:50 in the rain? Dude, that's getting it done in the rain/wet. Like Chris stated, the top experts in the wet were 2:00 flat. I don't ride Mid-O in the wet...

You won't be able to likely move up if you start in "I". Reason being is that they are pretty much booked solid and we can't add riders due to safety. I'd just start in "A" and if you are too slow or too much of a hazzard, we'll move you back down. Or, we'll try and work with you to get you sorted. Sounds that if you are running 10 seconds a lap quicker than the average "I" rider, you need to be in "A" anyways... Sign up for "A" and try it out.

Definitely. We see a LOT of arrogant riders in track days. As stated in my first post, guys come in and try a track day, don't do well and tell everyone it was a waste of money. It's funny because they didn't get anything out of it typically because they won't listen to criticism or suggestions... The whole self critique is something that is good and bad. The good is that we allow customers to feel like they have a choice. It is something that NESBA, for example doesn't allow and outside of a certified race license, you don't usually get into their expert class... That said, we police the groups pretty well, I think. Some slip through as we cannot watch everyone. I try and weave through the group to watch everyone, but I cannot pull aside a guy who is running 1:50 if he's smooth and controlled. I see a LOT of guys on liter bikes running slow and out of control. I also see guys on liter bikes riding rather well. It is an ability deal - not a CC issue all the time. I have also seen a few guys running good times, but are completely on the edge and doing stuff that is dangerous. Drew and I typically run :36s to :38s on a normal day. We can pull :33s, but it gets a little sketchy with the traffic. The :36-:38 range is comfortable for us, but is sometimes pretty "balls out" for some. We get a few guys that clip :36-:38s on their lap timers, but they are sawing people off, blowing corners, riding out of control, etc. I have more of a problem with those guys than the slower guys. We've pulled a few fast guys for being too sloppy and dangerous. Told them to slow down and ride within their means or they will be told to stop riding for the day. We also move people around. "I" riders up to "A" or even down to "N" and "A" riders down to "I" at times. I think we are going to try doing a NON mandatory classroom deal for the "A" group due to these issues. i think it will be well received and it will also be good food for thought for some good "A" riders to listen to... It would be 3 classroom sessions pertaining to braking, cornering and bike set-up. After lunch, it is pretty much an on your own deal. No limits out on the track - just information to try out and think over...

No, man.... NinjaNick thinks we track guys are "Ignorant fucks" so, I started a thread pertaining to track days in relationship to street guys... If you like track riding, I guess I am calling you ignorant!!

Not 100% on Putnam FT. I was refering to teh STT day there on the 4th of April. Maybe that's the 7th... I don't know... So, you wanting to ditch the 2006 GSXR? What goodies you have on her? Anything race related? I really want an 07, but I'd consider a well prepped 06... PM me and give me details...

Been watching this thread and actually thought the prices were too high, but anyways, looks a little shady and hope nobody here is thinking about dealing with this guy. Sounds like a sketchy guy to deal with. And then to post feedback under a different name, but same IP address is really bad. Be warned: http://forums.13x.com/showthread.php?t=164767

Good hearing it come from someone else. By the way, Absolutely HILLARIOUS avatar!!

What levers are those? They aren't CRGs. Are they the Vortex ones? Look good.

YES!!! Another one bites the dust and can't stand the heat!! Love it!! YEAH!

You coming to the April Mid-O? I think Drew and I are heading to Putnam, too...

I'm done. Satan can actually delete it as Dweez started a new one. I started a new one too for all the "ignorant fucks" on this site...

So, since NinjaNick has his panties in a bunch over all the track talk around here , I figured we start a thread to talk about all the dumbass street guys you track guys run across. Now, let's start this off right. ***I AM IN NO WAY SAYING STREET ONLY RIDERS ARE ASSHOLES OR ARE SHIT RIDERS.*** See, folks, guys like NinjaNick get all huffy and puffy because they cannot understand what track days do for street guys. He simply believes that he and the people he rides with are good enough and don't need to develop their skills more. In other words, they are happy with where they are at and that's fine. However, these kinds of street guys also are the first to tell you how fast they are, how they will school others when it comes to street riding, and how the track guys aren't as fast in the "real world of street riding" as they are. So, I figured you all who have done either track days, raced, or are currently racing could add a few stories of either misconceptions or funny stories about the badass street guys looking like douche bags... I'll start: I didn't start riding motorcycles until I was 19 years old. I started racing when I was 23 years old. Too old to make an impression, but I picked stuff up pretty quick and did "OK". Nothing great by any means, but one thing I learned when I played baseball was that no matter how good you think you are, you can ALWAYS learn and develop more. Always. I was a street only rider for about 5-6 years before I started racing. I worked at a dealership from 92-99 and through that time, I rode a LOT of street miles. When I started racing, I was also riding street. Did a LOT of stupid shit. A lot... I have done about everything I think is dumb now that I see riders still doing today. My goal now is to help the street guys. Not get them from doing stupid stuff, but to help them get better so they can adapt and be able to have a reserve in hand should a bad situation arise. I've been on and off the street in the last 14 years. I prefer not to ride street due to a LOT of variables that I hate not having control over. However, I will ride with a group and typically stay either well back or up front to avoid anyone I don't trust. What I find isn't so much that these guys are arrogant and cocky, I feel they are simply under qualified. I think they are more over confident than anything. That over confidence leads to some serious issues. I've seen guys make mistakes that had they had more instructing, they could have easily gotten out of that situation. Not everything is under your control. Hell, I've crashed my brains out because I pushed too hard and didn't have the ability to do what I was trying to do. Point is that in all my responses on sites like this, I simply try and point out some issues. It may possibly help someone out or it may also prompt someone to take a course or to get to the track. NinjaNick and guys like him have tried track days. They typically are too arrogant or too full of pride to accept they need help. When they cannot do track days well enough (In their eyes), they give up and blow it off and make jokes and side talk it like it is stupid. When, in fact, had they gone to an instructor, been open minded and swallowed some pride, we could have made them better riders. Street guys can benefit from track days. How? easy. They can learn things in a controlled environment where if they make mistakes, the likelihood of death or severe injury is lessened. We're not asking guys to take chances, but what we are able to do is get riders to push a little bit close to their limit and develop them to be able to extend that limit higher. A higher limit level allows the rider to ride with a reserve on the street. They'll be faster and things can get seriously out of control, but another lesson learned on the track is - PATIENCE. Patience and being aware of one's surroundings and what is going on will allow a rider to evaluate and adjust accordingly. Those riders who don't develop that ability will get in too deep and the situation they will be placed in is well above their ability level. Now, I also know a TON of street only guys who have an amazing amount of talent and an abundant amount of common sense. They don't ride over their heads and they are very aware and even a bit tentative. I like getting these guys to track days because I also think conservative and timid riders need to experience being scared. this will allow them to not panic and should they get into something outside their comfort level, they will be better prepared. I don't care if guys don't come to the track. What I do care about is the fact that the street guys like NinjNick who blow it off, who say they're great street riders, and who try and paint a picture that street riding takes more skills or that it is somehow completely different than what track riding is. It is - to a degree. More to the point that track riding is more controlled in terms of environment, but as far as what occurs on that bike? It's exactly the same. I can guarantee that guys like him haven't lost the front, haven't spun the rear like what occurs on the track, etc. They haven't had those experiences that come with riding on the edge. Now, they have had issues like listed above, but they don't learn from it. They think they have and they think they have it mastered, but they don't. A rear stepping out is because the road is dirty, the tires were cold, etc. The amount of stepping out the rear does isn't big at all, but it is something that they may have experienced, but they probably don't know what to do should it occur again. Basically, my goal is to educate. The street guys who come to the track days leave either feeling like NinjaNick where they are too good for something they aren't willing to give an honest shot to. Or, they leave with a little more under their belts. A little more knowledge. Guys like Flounder and Yota whom I've met here (and countless others who were street only) can chime in and tell us how it has made them as street riders. I just find it comical when a guy states he can ride a 600 and a ZX14 to the same pace. That tells ANY credited rider that the rider in question doesn't have advanced skills. Actually, it doesn't take advanced skills to tell the difference, but it takes advanced skills to understand them... I hope guys like NinjaNick change their tune. I'd welcome them as easily as I welcome any of the guys at the track days we do. Ask Yota and Flounder whom I have offered help to from this board. There are others and I apologize as I suck at names, but overall, we give a fair shake to those wanting it. Those that don't and think it is a waste of money, we have a lot of fun at their expense... So, take it away...