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Civil trespass, directly from the Ohio attny general - if it's in a vehicle or parking lot
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Criminal trespass if you actually take it into an establishment
http://codes.ohio.gov/orc/2923.126
ORC 2923.126 Sec C.3.a
(3) (a) Except as provided in division ©(3)(b) of this section, the owner or person in control of private land or premises, and a private person or entity leasing land or premises owned by the state, the United States, or a political subdivision of the state or the United States, may post a sign in a conspicuous location on that land or on those premises prohibiting persons from carrying firearms or concealed firearms on or onto that land or those premises. Except as otherwise provided in this division, a person who knowingly violates a posted prohibition of that nature is guilty of criminal trespass in violation of division (A)(4) of section 2911.21 of the Revised Code and is guilty of a misdemeanor of the fourth degree. If a person knowingly violates a posted prohibition of that nature and the posted land or premises primarily was a parking lot or other parking facility, the person is not guilty of criminal trespass in violation of division (A)(4) of section 2911.21 of the Revised Code and instead is subject only to a civil cause of action for trespass based on the violation. -
Fought what? You lost to a deer. Hell, I think you'd have trouble with a squirrel.
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Tear down the bar and put a 2mile technical road course in.
That'd be my favorite bike night spot for sure.
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Just because she's not in the ball anymore doesn't mean we still couldn't drop her from a 7 story height.
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Funny, yes. Even though that's the second time it's been reposted.
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If you have to finance $5000, you can't afford it.
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I don't think that's accurate. In fact' date=' the last few years have proven quite the opposite in this state.[/quote']
That's crazy talk, there was a Democrat governor...that can't be true, none of those liberal pussies shoot guns.
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Now if they would only pass that legislation were we can legally carry a concealed gun in Hooters, and I'll be happy!
Why? Are you going tit shooting?
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You don't "register" your guns in Ohio... you apply for a background check, nothing more.
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Thats a bummer. We'll miss ya Kos.
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You should probably add "FW:FW:FW:FW:FW:" as a preface to the thread title.
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2011 Kawasaki ZX-10R returns to sale, problem identified
http://hellforleathermagazine.com/2010/12/2011-kawasaki-zx-10r-returns-to-sale-problem-identified/
Kawasaki USA has just announced that the mysterious stop-sale on the 2011 Kawasaki ZX-10R will be lifted, identifying the previously-mysterious fault as residing in the intake valve springs. As stated when the not-a-recall was announced on December 11, the problem isn’t related to safety, performance or the modifications made to reduce power for the North American market. Instead, Kawasaki says there were fears the intake valves could seat improperly, impacting engine performance. Before the new superbike king of the hill goes back on-sale, all units will benefit from new camshafts, valve springs and spring retainers. Kawasaki isn’t naming a precise date, instead saying sales will resume in, “late January.” Full details below.
The press release follows:
IRVINE, Calif. (Dec. 29, 2010)—Kawasaki Motors Corp., U.S.A. today announced that the recent sales hold placed on the 2011 Ninja® ZX™-10R sportbike is expected to be lifted in late January and that sales of the highly-anticipated unit will resume as normal.
According to Kawasaki engineers, the proactive sales hold resulted from a finding that indicated possible surging of the intake valve spring when the unit is operated under unique riding conditions, such as on a racetrack. The surge could cause the intake valve to seat improperly, resulting in poor engine performance.
The camshaft, valve springs, and spring retainers are being replaced to prevent the valves from surging, without affecting engine performance.
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Beware, he likes to go around and kiss guys right on the mouth and make them gay for his birthday.
...and I guess on the days that aren't his birthday too.
HBD duder
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I'm on vacation until Jan 4th. So, I've got nothing to do but look at the interwebz ALL day long.
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I haven't watched these yet, but they appear just as interesting for the fearmongers among us.
[url=http://www.youtube.com/redirect?q=http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=3646E199A148A788&session_token=-upbRQoRsEqQJbEscfZP7G1g3mF8MTI5MzU3NDg5Mg==][ame]http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=3646E199A148A788[/ame]
The Trap: What Happened to Our Dream of Freedom (2007) by producer, Adam Curtis.The
series consists of three one-hour programs which explore the concept
and definition of freedom, specifically, "how a simplistic model of
human beings as self-seeking, almost robotic, creatures led to today's
idea of freedom.
If one steps back and looks at what freedom actually
means for us today, it's a strange and limited kind of freedom. The
West apparently fought the Cold War for "individual freedom", yet it is
still something our leaders continually promise to give us. Abroad, in
Iraq and Afghanistan, the attempt to force "freedom" on to other people
has led to bloody mayhem. This, in turn, has helped inspire terrorist
attacks in Britain. In response, the government has dismantled
long-standing laws that were designed to protect individual freedom...
The Trap-Part 1-Fuck You Buddy!-Full Length Documentary
Part 1 — Fuck You BuddyIn this episode, Curtis examines the rise of
game theory during the Cold War and the way in which its mathematical
models of human behavior filtered into economic thought. The program
traces the development of game theory with particular reference to the
work of John Nash, who constructed logically consistent and
mathematically verifiable models, for which he won the Nobel Prize in
Economics. He invented system games reflecting his beliefs about human
behavior, including one he called "Fuck You Buddy" (later published as
"So Long Sucker"), in which the only way to win was to betray your
playing partner. These games were internally coherent and worked
correctly as long as the players obeyed the ground rules that they
should behave selfishly and try to outwit their opponents. As the 1960s
became the 1970s, the theories of a Scottish psychiatrist, R.D Laing,
and the models of Nash began to converge, producing a widespread popular
belief that the state (a surrogate family) was purely and simply a
mechanism of social control which calculatedly kept power out of the
hands of the public. Curtis shows that it was this belief that allowed
economic models that left no room for altruism to look credible and that
this underpinned the free-market beliefs of Margaret Thatcher, who
sincerely believed that by dismantling as much of the British state as
possible and placing former national institutions into the hands of
public shareholders, a new form of social equilibrium would be reached.
This was a return to Nash's work, in which he proved mathematically that
if everyone was pursuing their own interests, a stable, yet perpetually
dynamic society could result. But as the mathematically modeled society
is run on data—performance targets, quotas, statistics—it is these
figures combined with the exaggerated belief that human selfishness will
provide stability, that has created "the trap".
The Trap-Part 2-The Lonely Robot-Full Length Documentary
Part 2 — The Lonely RobotThe second episode reiterates many of the
ideas of the first, but develops the theme that drugs such as Prozac and
lists of psychological symptoms which might indicate anxiety or
depression are being used to normalize behavior and make humans behave
more predictably, like machines. This is not presented as a conspiracy,
but as a logical although unpredicted outcome of market-driven
self-diagnosis by checklists based on normal symptoms of human emotion.
The Trap-Part 3-We Will Force You To Be Free-Full Length Documentary
Part 3 — We Will Force You To Be FreeThe final program focuses on
the concepts of positive and negative liberty introduced in the 1950s by
Isaiah Berlin. Curtis briefly explains how negative liberty could be
defined as freedom from coercion and positive liberty as the opportunity
to strive to fulfill one's potential.
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He wouldn't have lost control if he was wearing moto-sandals and not those slip-on jobs he's rocking in the video.
Proper gear is important.
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See if someone will trade you your Accord for a beat up first gen S10.
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What's that have to do with anything? Yea its an auto.
Nothing, jporter doesn't know what he's talking about. Having an auto transmission is about as important as putting gas in your car instead of diesel. They're both fuel -- it doesn't matter.
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Do you get funny looks from the guys at AutoZone when you say it like that? Then do they start talking to you like you're a chick?
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You might be better off putting the hitch on the Katana and towing the Accord.
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Might also have helped that just that morning my Cadillac converter and exhaust pipe separated, making my truck sound extremely loud and obnoxious, so maybe I fit in a little better.
What does that do? Turn your truck into a 3/4 ton CTS?
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Here you go Fonz and Sambusa... you want fear and conspiracy, this is it. Except, this series has been awarded "Best Factual Series" in 2004.
Yes, I watched all 3 of the one-hour documentary pieces. And this is along the lines of the same "kool-aid" I've been drinking all along and I've offering to share it with others.
2004: The Power of Nightmares (BBC Two) suggested a parallel between the rise of Islamism in the Arab world and Neoconservatism in the United States in that both needed to inflate a myth of a dangerous enemy in order to draw people to support them. It received the BAFTA Award for Best Factual Series in 2004.[6]To view all threee videos in order...
http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=1D677F7EAAEE3DD5
Part 1 - Baby it's Cold OutsideThe films compare the rise of the Neo-Conservative movement in theUnited States and the radical Islamist movement, making comparisons on
their origins and claiming similarities between the two. More
controversially, it argues that the threat of radical Islamism as a
massive, sinister organized force of destruction, specifically in the
form of al-Qaeda, is a myth perpetrated by politicians in many
countries—and particularly American Neo-Conservatives—in an attempt to
unite and inspire their people following the failure of earlier, more
utopian ideologies.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K5lByw7kvS0&feature=player_embedded
The Power of Nightmares Part 2 - The Phantom VictoryPart 1: Baby It's Cold Outside:The first part of the series explains
the origin of Islamism and Neo-Conservatism. It shows Egyptian civil
servant Sayyid Qutb, depicted as the founder of modern Islamist thought,
visiting the U.S. to learn about the education system, but becoming
disgusted with what he saw as a corruption of morals and virtues in
western society through individualism. When he returns to Egypt, he is
disturbed by westernization under Gamal Abdel Nasser and becomes
convinced that in order to save society it must be completely
restructured along the lines of Islamic law while still using western
technology. He also becomes convinced that this can only be accomplished
through the use of an elite "vanguard" to lead a revolution against the
established order. Qutb becomes a leader of the Muslim Brotherhood and,
after being tortured in one of Nasser's jails, comes to believe that
western-influenced leaders can justly be killed for the sake of removing
their corruption. Qutb is executed in 1966, but he influences the
future mentor of Osama bin Laden, Ayman al-Zawahiri, to start his own
secret Islamist group. Inspired by the 1979 Iranian revolution, Zawahiri
and his allies assassinate Egyptian president Anwar Al Sadat, in 1981,
in hopes of starting their own revolution. The revolution does not
materialize, and Zawahiri comes to believe that the majority of Muslims
have been corrupted not only by their western-inspired leaders, but
Muslims themselves have been affected by jahilliyah and thus both may be
legitimate targets of violence if they do not join him. They continued
to have the belief that a vanguard was necessary to rise up and
overthrow the corrupt regime and replace with a pure Islamist state.
At
the same time in the United States, a group of disillusioned liberals,
including Irving Kristol and Paul Wolfowitz, look to the political
thinking of Leo Strauss after the perceived failure of President
Johnson's "Great Society". They come to the conclusion that the emphasis
on individual liberty was the undoing of the plan. They envisioned
restructuring America by uniting the American people against a common
evil, and set about creating a mythical enemy. These factions, the
Neo-Conservatives, came to power under the Reagan administration, with
their allies Dick Cheney and Donald Rumsfeld, and work to unite the
United States in fear of the Soviet Union. The Neo-Conservatives allege
the Soviet Union is not following the terms of disarmament between the
two countries, and, with the investigation of "Team B", they accumulate a
case to prove this with dubious evidence and methods. President Reagan
is convinced nonetheless.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ai6LhnW4Oa8&feature=player_embedded
The Power of Nightmares Part 3 - The Shadows in the CavePart 2: The Phantom Victory:In the second episode, Islamist
factions, rapidly falling under the more radical influence of Zawahiri
and his rich Saudi acolyte Osama bin Laden, join the
Neo-Conservative-influenced Reagan Administration to combat the Soviet
Union's invasion of Afghanistan. When the Soviets eventually pull out
and when the Eastern Bloc begins to collapse in the late 1980s, both
groups believe they are the primary architects of the "Evil Empire's"
defeat. Curtis argues that the Soviets were on their last legs anyway,
and were doomed to collapse without intervention.
However, the
Islamists see it quite differently, and in their triumph believe that
they had the power to create 'pure' Islamic states in Egypt and Algeria.
However, attempts to create perpetual Islamic states are blocked by
force. The Islamists then try to create revolutions in Egypt and Algeria
by the use of terrorism to scare the people into rising up. However,
the people were terrified by the violence and the Algerian government
uses their fear as a way to maintain power. In the end, the Islamists
declare the entire populations of the countries as inherently
contaminated by western values, and finally in Algeria turn on each
other, each believing that other terrorist groups are not pure enough
Muslims either.
In America, the Neo-Conservatives' aspirations to
use the United States military power for further destruction of evil
are thrown off track by the ascent of George H. W. Bush to the
presidency, followed by the 1992 election of Bill Clinton leaving them
out of power. The Neo-Conservatives, with their conservative Christian
allies, attempt to demonize Clinton throughout his presidency with
various real and fabricated stories of corruption and immorality. To
their disappointment, however, the American people do not turn against
Clinton. The Islamist attempts at revolution end in massive bloodshed,
leaving the Islamists without popular support. Zawahiri and bin Laden
flee to the sufficiently safe Afghanistan and declare a new strategy; to
fight Western-inspired moral decay they must deal a blow to its source:
the United States.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5HvzR8w1z2g&feature=player_embedded
The final episode addresses the actual rise of Al-Qaeda. Curtis arguesthat, after their failed revolutions, bin Laden and Zawahiri had little
or no popular support, let alone a serious complex organization of
terrorists, and were dependent upon independent operatives to carry out
their new call for jihad. The film instead argues that in order to
prosecute bin Laden in absentia for the 1998 U.S. embassy bombings, US
prosecutors had to prove he was the head of a criminal organization
responsible for the bombings. They find a former associate of bin Laden,
Jamal al-Fadl, and pay him to testify that bin Laden was the head of a
massive terrorist organization called "Al-Qaeda". With the September
11th attacks, Neo-Conservatives in the new Republican government of
George W. Bush use this created concept of an organization to justify
another crusade against a new evil enemy, leading to the launch of the
War on Terrorism.
After the American invasion of Afghanistan
fails to uproot the alleged terrorist network, the Neo-Conservatives
focus inwards, searching unsuccessfully for terrorist sleeper cells in
America. They then extend the war on "terror" to a war against general
perceived evils with the invasion of Iraq in 2003. The ideas and tactics
also spread to the United Kingdom where Tony Blair uses the threat of
terrorism to give him a new moral authority. The repercussions of the
Neo-Conservative strategy are also explored with an investigation of
indefinitely-detained terrorist suspects in Guantanamo Bay, many
allegedly taken on the word of the anti-Taliban Northern Alliance
without actual investigation on the part of the United States military,
and other forms of "preemption" against non-existent and unlikely
threats made simply on the grounds that the parties involved could later
become a threat. Curtis also makes a specific attempt to allay fears of
a dirty bomb attack, and concludes by reassuring viewers that
politicians will eventually have to concede that some threats are
exaggerated and others altogether devoid of reality. "In an age when all
the grand ideas have lost credibility, fear of a phantom enemy is all
the politicians have left to maintain their power."
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Agreed... I live on OSU campus you can hear a douche bag in a WRX a mile away:nono:. Given their nice cars the person behind the wheel thinks their in the Indy 500
Considering 1st purchase, couple questions...
in Dumpster
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Plz note I edited my last post. There is a CRIMINAL trespassing charge if you carry into an establishment with a sign. It's an M4, so max punishment is 30 days + $250 fine.
http://www.clelaw.lib.oh.us/public/misc/faqs/sentencing.html