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4000 people in this case. These people are seeking asylum because of violence and being poor. So because you're such a good person, you need to let everyone in from other countries who's facing violence and who is poor. I think that number just gained 3 more zeros. When it comes to being violent and/or poor, Honduras isn't really high on the list even, compared to some other countries.

If you had a business, would you: 1) Hire the first 100 people that knocked on your door, hoping that some of them have skills, aren't creeps, etc. 2) Would you look at their applications, then interview and eventually hire the right candidate(s)? I bet you'd go with option 2, because option 1 is a disaster and you're setting yourself up for failure.

Different conversation, but I agree, shit doesn't get dealt with properly. This doesn't really have anything to do blaming whitey for terrorism. Kinda smells like an aboutism. I wasn't a fan of the muslim ban, in my eyes it's a waste of time with a sprinkle of bigotry. I say a sprinkle because as we've discussed, muslims do like to commit terror against western nations.

I just copied them straight from the article. I also mentioned that let's just assume each attack was by a different person. I don't know what the number is, but the Islamic number needs to be pretty low to equal the white %. If it was 1 out of 3.5 million, I still think that's more per capita. Where the math guys at?

What does that have to do with anything? Every terrorist has their reason why they're doing it, whether it's race, religion...who cares? And if you think race isn't a factor for non-whites, you better wake up. No one gets a pass. You're going to sit there and tell me when 106 people were killed in 62 attacks by far-right extremists (who are sometimes white), and 119 people were killed in 23 attacks by Islamist, that white people have a terrorist problem? I got those numbers from the article I shared above. These are the numbers Lemon shared too. Let's break that down. For argument's sake, let's say that each attack was one individual. US Population: 325 million total 1.1% Muslim = 3.5 million 72% white = 234 million. So 23 out of 3.5 million Muslims are terrorists, but 62 out of 234 million whites are terrorist. Again, tell me whites have a terrorist problem. You're right, this conversation is stupid, but you don't understand why it's stupid.

The point is America is full of whites. https://www.washingtonpost.com/arts-entertainment/2018/10/31/cnn-host-don-lemon-said-white-men-are-biggest-terror-threat-this-country/?utm_source=reddit.com&utm_term=.fc692d8e5b2c ALMOST twice as many from right wing extremists, MANY of whom are white. Well fuck me...seems like non-whites are doing more than their share of the terrorizing. Yeah, let's mention some cold, hard facts and see who starts crying racism first. Idiot.

Well the US is ~80% white ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Here, I made a template: majority of domestic terrorists in [insert country name] are extremist [political side that's not in power] [majority race in country] males.

White men are the biggest threat to this country according to the "news" and "we have to do something about them".

Nobody wants kids in cages, but how do you deal with this issue? You can't just come into any country you want. Like Tim said, we can't just release them into the US. Either you come in here legally like everyone else or GTFO and go back to your country.

Ah. Well I'm going to go out on a limb and say I don't think most people want to see kids in cages, regardless of political views. Democrats are using it as a political tool, sure, as would republicans if the shoe was on their foot.

What are we even arguing here? I'm arguing that we don't need to change immigration laws, they're fine the way they are. Are you (greg & geeto) proposing we loosen the laws? We need to let more people in? Lower the standards? Let in any Tom, Dick and Jose who wants in?

So they say in that link how they came to that conclusion: "We looked at the data in two ways for 2013: First, the sheer number of legal immigrants and secondly, the number of new immigrants as a percentage of the population." Everyone and their uncle wants to immigrate to America. I'd like to know the percentage of people who want to come here before they realize they won't be able to. Then the people who actually apply and get denied vs the ones that actually get accepted. So speaking from personal experience, most South Africans you'll see are either in Australia, New Zealand, UK or Canada. Why? Because these countries make it easy for you to do so, they offer incentives and will help you. From what I've heard, Canada is the easiest because they want more people, they are very underpopulated. A quick visit to their website, they'll let you in under "self employment" This website tells you exactly all the way you can immigrate to the US. https://travel.state.gov/content/travel/en/us-visas/immigrate.html There are basically 2 ways to get here, through family or work. Work is probably the hardest because you need to get a company to stick their neck out for you...you better be skilled. Family is easier, but unless it's your spouse, it's a lengthy and slow process. I went through the sibling green card process to get my sister here. It takes about 10 years before she will be eligible to apply for a green card, and for countries with more applicants it will take even longer.

Drop in the bucket compared to the other immigrants. With that being said...America isn't exactly the country with the lowest crime rates out there either. The data also exists to see which groups commit most of the crimes. Hint: They either got free rides or they walked here. $670 in today's money or back then? Either way, that's a lot of money for a person that is poor. I stand by my comment, it's another way to separate some of the...less productive. $670 in 1800 would be $13,423.34 today according to a calculator I found online.

Germany, Japan...probably every Scandinavian country. These are countries with low crime rates too. Edit: Yup, your last link talks about it. They are "criticized" for their strict policies, but like I said, these are fantastic places to live. You can criticize me all you want, but I'm not letting everyone drive my 250 GTO.

:dumb::dumb::dumb: I stopped reading after that because the US has probably THE strictest laws out there.

Well SA tried to do it all too quickly. Instead of letting these things heal over time, they wanted to speed it along with things like BEE aka Affirmative Action. So you get unqualified people in high positions that have bankrupted just about all State Owned Entities. Here's the latest gem that went viral. The head of IT at SARS (IRS equivalent). Bring these geniuses over, maybe she can be the head of IT at the IRS. She has a very impressive resume. University degree that she probably worked really hard for. Nothing to say about that other than, yup, dumb move.

It wasn't exactly an immigration free for all, was it? Who immigrated here? Brits, Germans, Irish, Italians...westerners. It also takes a bit of coin to be able to afford a boat ride here, so that separated some of the wheat from the chaff. I'm all for immigration, I'm an immigrant for fucks sake, but there needs to be laws, tough laws. Some of the greatest countries in the world when it comes to healthcare, standards of living and happiness has the strictest immigration laws in the world.

Don't we all. Free lunch and Lamborghini's for everyone too! If we let everyone from those "horrible" countries in, how long will it be before the US turns into another one of those horrible countries? My country of birth managed to fuck everything up in 10-15 years, can that record be beaten?

The accuser is also accusing Twitter of shadow banning his Tweets. https://twitter.com/TheeDeepThroat/status/1054405202390876160 Hypocrisy is strong with this one. An accuser steps forward and now we want to see more evidence. For Kavanaugh the accusers word was enough though.

What happened to believe all accusers?

#MeToo seems pretty quiet about Corey Booker being accused of sexual assault.

That's my understanding of the meme.

Trump knows that Kanye likes 'em thicc http://2.media.collegehumor.cvcdn.com/91/88/de7132b11bef832f8a1c58ffb52320b2-2.jpg

:dumb: Adorable.