I understand. In the 90's I use to ask different farmers permission to squirrel or rabbit hunt with some succes. Deer hunting privaye property during gun season, is prime real estate, where usually their family members, if they hunt all, always hunt deer gun. If you do ever get permission, make sure it's clear between you and the landowner, if it's for one time, multiple times, just you or you and a friend, camping, no camping, screw in ladders or no screw in ladders, et cetera. Nothing pisses off a landowner more than giving someone permission and all the sudden their bringing friends, screwing in foot ladders, riding quads around, et cetera.