sporttour Posted April 1, 2013 Report Share Posted April 1, 2013 While getting ready to instruct a Motorcycle Ohio class on the Hilltop last Saturday, I low-sided one of the training bikes while traveling 12 to 15 miles per hour. This accident resulted in three broken ribs and two suspected fractured ribs.The factors involved in this accident include, cold tires, cold pavement, new tires and lean angle. While staging the bikes for class, I failed to notice some of the bikes had new front tires. My assumption that the tires were seasoned is costing me six to eight weeks of riding and instruction time. Don't assume. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunner75 Posted April 1, 2013 Report Share Posted April 1, 2013 Damn dude! Take care out there. This just reaffirms for me my new tire purchase will have a little slick coating on them and I need to take it easy. You need anything let me know, your not but about a 45 minute ride for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RHill Posted April 1, 2013 Report Share Posted April 1, 2013 Sorry to hear about the accident! Sounds all too familiar, guess I got out easy when it happened to me. Hope you heal up quick! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grapesmuggler27 Posted April 1, 2013 Report Share Posted April 1, 2013 Damn that sucks...get well soon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gixxus Christ! Posted April 1, 2013 Report Share Posted April 1, 2013 Factory fresh tires have mold release agent on them, makes em slippery. A rag soaked in acetone will take it off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bubba Posted April 1, 2013 Report Share Posted April 1, 2013 Ouch! Heal up, man.I just completed the Lee Parks Total Control L1/L2 course down in Lexington, KY, this past Wed/Thur. It was VERY tiring trying to execute the teaching maneuvers in a flat parking lot at speeds of 30-40 MPH at most. What was really an eye-opener was that there were a couple get-offs, prolly at between 20 and 30 MPH. One of the riders ended up with a broken collarbone, and BOTH riders had significant road rash on the front/sides of their helmets. Even at those low speeds--relative to street speeds--they would have been seriously injured if not dead had they not been wearing gear.I've been a gear freak for years, but always assumed that I could 'control my body' and protect myself in a low-speed crash, but I'm a wiser man now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
serpentracer Posted April 1, 2013 Report Share Posted April 1, 2013 (edited) Factory fresh tires have mold release agent on them, makes em slippery. A rag soaked in acetone will take it off.tire companies have not use mold release for quite some time a pirelli rep said so in a magazine interview. there are also other myths about tires he said are not true. 1. race tires on the street will never have less grip than a street tire.2. mold release is not used in the industry anymore.3. there is no such thing as a 100 mile break in period4. tires only need heat to work nothing else. (no need to worry about a break in period) they didn't mention what the oily stuff is on a tire but it's not mold release. Edited April 1, 2013 by serpentracer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gixxus Christ! Posted April 1, 2013 Report Share Posted April 1, 2013 Odd. I worked for a company owned by kenda rubber, used to get my tires at cost. They would arrive slippery, acetone rag fixed that every time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kmanlyst Posted April 1, 2013 Report Share Posted April 1, 2013 (edited) I was at that class and saw it happen and you still went on to teach the class, hope you feel better soon George. Edited April 1, 2013 by Kmanlyst Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gixxus Christ! Posted April 1, 2013 Report Share Posted April 1, 2013 Perhaps its from the ultra-smooth surface of the mold cavity...I apprenticed at a rubber mold-making shop for a few years, spent lots of time polishing cavities. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chevysoldier Posted April 1, 2013 Report Share Posted April 1, 2013 My understanding is that you don't need to scrub new tires. They only tell you to go easy for the first couple hundred miles so that you get used to the handling of the new tires.Sorry to hear about your misfortune. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sporttour Posted April 2, 2013 Author Report Share Posted April 2, 2013 Thanks Karl. I wish I could have taught Sunday as well. There are few things that give me the satisfaction that instructing motorcycle classes does. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brownsfan1 Posted April 2, 2013 Report Share Posted April 2, 2013 That sucks man...get well soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jschaf Posted April 2, 2013 Report Share Posted April 2, 2013 Sorry for your mishap. Heal fast. I don't believe that mold release is the culprit with new tires anymore. The problem is that new tires are particularly slippery until they have gone through several heat cycles. Cold tires will always offer less traction than warm ones but new cold tires are the worst. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helmutt Posted April 2, 2013 Report Share Posted April 2, 2013 Sucks to hear. But honestly, probably better it was you than a learning rider. You know what went wrong and will get back in the saddle asap, a new rider may have been scared out of a new lust in life. Heal up and get back out there! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wantahertzdonut Posted April 2, 2013 Report Share Posted April 2, 2013 That stinks, here's to a fast recovery.Drink a lot of milk, and try not to sneeze! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sirepair Posted April 2, 2013 Report Share Posted April 2, 2013 Nothing like a "practical demonstration" to drive home a point!!Seriously though, heal quickly and fully! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sporttour Posted April 2, 2013 Author Report Share Posted April 2, 2013 Thanks everyone. I attribute my total lack of bruising to the armor in my Aerostich jacket. The jacket will be sent back to Aerostich for repair.I do agree, better I than a student. But having had several get-offs in the past, including a 40mph impact into a left turning car, this one feels the worst. I guess it sucks being a little-less-young. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scruit Posted April 2, 2013 Report Share Posted April 2, 2013 George - Are you the same George that taught the MSF course at Delaware Area Career Center/JVS on Rt23 just south of the city back in 2004-2005 time period?While I was taking that course the instructor low-sided a bike in some oil spilled by a car, but was able to bounce back up (literally, epic recovery) and continue teaching. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sporttour Posted April 2, 2013 Author Report Share Posted April 2, 2013 I can't claim that one. I don't know who that was. I was supposed to teach in Delaware this coming weekend, but those plans have now changed... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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