smashweights Posted August 23, 2013 Report Share Posted August 23, 2013 (edited) http://www.cnn.com/2013/08/23/us/world-war-vet-beating-death/index.html?hpt=hp_t1 Are you fucking kidding me? Burn these fucking shitbags in the streets. Seriously, Salem Witch Trial shit. What was he doing? Waiting outside a lodge to walk a lady home. Unbelievable. Edited August 23, 2013 by smashweights Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bowdog Posted August 23, 2013 Report Share Posted August 23, 2013 Fucking disgraceful!!!! And I agree 100% with you smashweights. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redbarron77 Posted August 23, 2013 Report Share Posted August 23, 2013 (edited) Public stoning would be too good of punishment for this kind of crime. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stoning Edited August 23, 2013 by redbarron77 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bloodninja420 Posted August 23, 2013 Report Share Posted August 23, 2013 I am Travon Martin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shittygsxr Posted August 23, 2013 Report Share Posted August 23, 2013 Tunes into psycic powers, and the suspects were African American . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Casper Posted August 23, 2013 Report Share Posted August 23, 2013 http://www.khq.com/story/23225525/88-year-old-man-assaulted-at-eagles-ice-arena-has-died Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magley64 Posted August 23, 2013 Report Share Posted August 23, 2013 http://www.cnn.com/2013/08/23/us/world-war-vet-beating-death/index.html?hpt=hp_t1 Are you fucking kidding me? Burn these fucking shitbags in the streets. Seriously, Salem Witch Trial shit. What was he doing? Waiting outside a lodge to walk a lady home. Unbelievable. yes, cause that's how our free and democratic society works... I have a better idea... How about we put them on trial, and let a jury of their peers review the evidence and come to a verdict... Then we have some authority (perhaps a judge of some sort) suggest a punishment for their crimes... Just an idea... 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redbarron77 Posted August 23, 2013 Report Share Posted August 23, 2013 yes, cause that's how our free and democratic society works... I have a better idea... How about we put them on trial, and let a jury of their peers review the evidence and come to a verdict... Then we have some authority (perhaps a judge of some sort) suggest a punishment for their crimes... Just an idea... And once convicted, provide an extremely appropriate and public punishment that will (hopefully) deter said crime in the future. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smashweights Posted August 23, 2013 Author Report Share Posted August 23, 2013 (edited) And once convicted, provide an extremely appropriate and public punishment that will (hopefully) deter said crime in the future. Exactly. Gotta make sure we burn the right fuckers. I'm not a crazy person. Leave it to Magz to always suggest someone meant something they didn't. Just to be safe: HERE'S WHAT WE SHOULD DO TO THEM SHIT BAGS!!!!- Thoroughly investigate who committed this act!- Track down the most likely suspects!- Read them their Miranda Rights!- Arrest those fuckers!- Hold a grand jurty!- Indict these bastards!- Give them a court-appointed lawyer if they can't afford one!- Charge them with only the appropriate crimes they deserve!- Have a trial by jury of their peers!- Allow them their 5th amendment right to remain silent if they so choose!- When the jury returns their verdict of GUILTY, sentence them to DEATH BY BURNING AT THE STAKE IN THE PUBLIC SQUARE!- Proceed with said burning. Edited August 23, 2013 by smashweights 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
max power Posted August 23, 2013 Report Share Posted August 23, 2013 (edited) Yeah, they probably just asked him for some money and he refused. What a mean racist white man, right Magz? Edited August 23, 2013 by max power 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magley64 Posted August 23, 2013 Report Share Posted August 23, 2013 (edited) Exactly. Gotta make sure we burn the right fuckers. I'm not a crazy person. Leave it to Magz to always suggest someone meant something they didn't. Just to be safe: HERE'S WHAT WE SHOULD DO TO THEM SHIT BAGS!!!!- Thoroughly investigate who committed this act!- Track down the most likely suspects!- Read them their Miranda Rights!- Arrest those fuckers!- Hold a grand jurty!- Indict these bastards!- Give them a court-appointed lawyer if they can't afford one!- Charge them with only the appropriate crimes they deserve!- Have a trial by jury of their peers!- Allow them their 5th amendment right to remain silent if they so choose!- When the jury returns their verdict of GUILTY, sentence them to DEATH BY BURNING AT THE STAKE IN THE PUBLIC SQUARE!- Proceed with said burning. I'm pretty sure that falls under "unusual punishment" in our constitution. But this is why you elect judges, to decide proper punishment for crimes. Yeah, they probably just asked him for some money and he refused. What a mean racist white man, right Magz? I have no idea what their intentions, provocations, or motives were... I've got no information regarding the circumstances... That said, my position remains consistent with my values: investigation, trial, conviction = punishment, Aquittal = freedom... Edited August 23, 2013 by magley64 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blitz Posted August 23, 2013 Report Share Posted August 23, 2013 Strange the CNN article neglects to identify the attackers as African Americans. There has been an uptick in black on white violent unprovoked attacks since the Trayvon Martin trial. Scary stuff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magley64 Posted August 23, 2013 Report Share Posted August 23, 2013 Strange the CNN article neglects to identify the attackers as African Americans. There has been an uptick in black on white violent unprovoked attacks since the Trayvon Martin trial. Scary stuff. Congratulations, you have achieved the intended emotional response... News media thrives on fear and outrage... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smashweights Posted August 23, 2013 Author Report Share Posted August 23, 2013 (edited) I'm pretty sure that falls under "unusual punishment" in our constitution. But this is why you elect judges, to decide proper punishment for crimes. It's only unusual because it's not currently used and therefore, usual. That said, my position remains consistent with my values: investigation, trial, conviction = punishment, Aquittal = freedom... Sweet brag, your position is consistent with everyone else's values. Again no one has said "burn the first person we suspect of this crime without due process or regardless of the verdict." Edited August 23, 2013 by smashweights 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baptizo Posted August 23, 2013 Report Share Posted August 23, 2013 Trial, conviction, and death by a firing squad immediately follows....no more fucking liberal, nanny state bullshit for convicted killers. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magley64 Posted August 23, 2013 Report Share Posted August 23, 2013 It's only unusual because it's not currently used and therefore, usual. Sweet brag, your position is consistent with everyone else's values. Again no one has said "burn the first person we suspect of this crime without due process or regardless of the verdict." No i meant consistent with my position on the TM/GZ case... as opposed to the all too common knee jerk reaction, blame the black guy... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blitz Posted August 23, 2013 Report Share Posted August 23, 2013 Congratulations, you have achieved the intended emotional response... News media thrives on fear and outrage. Your comment is more than a little confusing. Did you only read the last two word of my post? If the news media was intending to provoke fear and outrage with this article, it would seem to be a good idea for them to identify the attackers race. I'm not saying the news media doesn't thrive on fear and outrage. But in this case they are intentionally leaving out facts because they have an agenda. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magley64 Posted August 23, 2013 Report Share Posted August 23, 2013 (edited) Your comment is more than a little confusing. Did you only read the last two word of my post? If the news media was intending to provoke fear and outrage with this article, it would seem to be a good idea for them to identify the attackers race. I'm not saying the news media doesn't thrive on fear and outrage. But in this case they are intentionally leaving out facts because they have an agenda. They intentionally put the words "WW2 Vet" in the title to provoke outrage... would it have made it to ORDN if it had been a random 88yr old homeless man? Nope... Edited August 23, 2013 by magley64 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blitz Posted August 23, 2013 Report Share Posted August 23, 2013 I'll personally always be outraged when juvenile thugs kill a WW2 vet (homeless or housed), whether a biased media tells me or not. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magley64 Posted August 23, 2013 Report Share Posted August 23, 2013 (edited) I'll personally always be outraged when juvenile thugs kill a WW2 vet (homeless or housed), whether a biased media tells me or not. That was my whole point, had it been 2 juvenile thugs killing an 88yr old tax accountant you wouldn't have even heard about it... it wouldn't be on this site being discussed. congratulations, you've been emotionally manipulated by the press. Edited August 23, 2013 by magley64 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M_Quick Posted August 23, 2013 Report Share Posted August 23, 2013 UPDATE: Glenn, one of the 16-year-old suspects in the Delbert Belton case, will be tried as an adult. Glenn, as of now, is on the juvenile docket for today facing 1st Degree Murder and 1st degree Robbery. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Butters Posted August 23, 2013 Report Share Posted August 23, 2013 in all honesty...i just dont understand why black on white crimes are not tried as hate crimes, but any white on black crime is always a hate crime....what the fuck. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post smashweights Posted August 23, 2013 Author Popular Post Report Share Posted August 23, 2013 (edited) That was my whole point, had it been 2 juvenile thugs killing an 88yr old tax accountant you wouldn't have even heard about it... it wouldn't be on this site being discussed. congratulations, you've been emotionally manipulated by the press. I think you're confusing "manipulation" and "relevant facts." Obviously certain things will upset people more than others. If someone kicked a random 58 year old woman in the shins and ran off, am I gonna get riled up when I hear about it? Probably not. If someone kicked my 58 year old mother in the shins and ran off, I probably will. Does that mean the person who told me about those events is manipulating the story to make me mad? No, it means they're telling you the facts about it. And yes, we would be infuriated if this was an 88 year old tax accountant or an 88 year old homeless man, perhaps not to the same extent. It's an atrocity either way. And YES, it would be on this site. Lest you forget we talked about the shooting of a baseball player recently. Hardly in the same league of reverence as a WWII veteran who was wounded in Okinawa. You're just making yourself look foolish. Edited August 23, 2013 by smashweights 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magley64 Posted August 23, 2013 Report Share Posted August 23, 2013 (edited) "Caucasion Hispanic": Manipulation "WWII Veteran": Factual Informationcaucasion hispanic = Made upWW2 Veteran = irrelevant Factual, yes... but doesn't make him any more or less dead Nor does it make his death any more or less tragic... Edited August 23, 2013 by magley64 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blitz Posted August 23, 2013 Report Share Posted August 23, 2013 How is the fact that the man murdered was a WWII veteran "irrelevant"? Now you're adjusting you're argument to prove your first talking point: We're all fools for having a visceral reaction to a media story. Which by the way, is stated in a manner that seems to say "anyone that falls for the manipulating medias stories of violence and sorrow is gullible and unable to discern important from unimportant, but you don't fall for those tricks and are somehow, therefore better." Seems like an excuse to not pay attention, or better yet a reason to be uninformed. Sweet dude.... When the fact that the man was a WWII vet becomes irrelevant, that's the same time we are all simply SSN numbers and statistics. Nobody can make that argument and back it up intelligently. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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