Blitz Posted August 26, 2013 Report Share Posted August 26, 2013 Whether it's heavy trucks, harsh winters, or not enough money (in my mind it's none of the above), Ohio roads are some of the worst that I've been on.It's not the winters either. Iowa has far worse Winters than we do and their roads are smooth and solid everywhere. Very few potholes. I don't know what it is about Ohio roads, but 75% of them are potholed, crumbling and extremely hard on vehicles. It seems to me that the problem is the materials Ohio uses to construct roads that is the problem.There is a test patch of road between Delaware and Marion that has been in good shape for years. I don't know why they don't change the material they use to make roadways because there are states that do it far better than we do. We pay income taxes, gas taxes, and still have to have an alignment 4 times a year. Guess it keeps the auto service industry making money....but I can't help but thinking it would be beneficial for the economy if consumers could spend that money elsewhere instead of on vehicle repairs.Anyone have any idea why Ohio roads are so bad compared to elsewhere in the US? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CleaveTheGreat Posted August 26, 2013 Report Share Posted August 26, 2013 Not sure what the reason is but I completely agree. Ohio roads are shit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad324 Posted August 26, 2013 Report Share Posted August 26, 2013 (edited) Reason: Liberal fucktards Edited August 26, 2013 by Bad324 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tpoppa Posted August 26, 2013 Report Share Posted August 26, 2013 It's been debated other places than this. There are advanced road materials that are very durable like rubberized asphalt. They are not widely used. I am not in that industry, I know a few who are. Those who award road contracts do no have a reason to insist on better materials. Also, If you use better materials, roads need repaired less often, and road contruction companies get less work...or at least that's what I've heard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magley64 Posted August 26, 2013 Report Share Posted August 26, 2013 it's all Obama's fault! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2talltim Posted August 26, 2013 Report Share Posted August 26, 2013 it's all Obama's fault!The smartest thing I've ever seen you type:wub:sent via GS3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Posted August 26, 2013 Report Share Posted August 26, 2013 drive around southeast michigan for a while. our roads are smooth as glass compared to theirs. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gump Posted August 26, 2013 Report Share Posted August 26, 2013 It's the Unions juicing it. Now its Obamas fault. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baptizo Posted August 26, 2013 Report Share Posted August 26, 2013 Yeah, they suck but I agree with what John said about SE MI....omg. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sapphy Posted August 26, 2013 Report Share Posted August 26, 2013 I like how Germany does it. The company the builds the road must warranty it for 10 or 20 years. If it develops issues the company that built the road must fix it at their cost. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigerpaw Posted August 26, 2013 Report Share Posted August 26, 2013 I've lived all over. I've driven in the majority of the States. To me, Ohio's roads are "comparable" to others. Yes, there are some outright horrible ones...same as everywhere. Lol. Heavy trucks, "harsh winters", no money...LOL. "Iowa has far worse winters" ... far worse than Hawaii maybe. Go to Europe for good roads. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ohiomike Posted August 26, 2013 Report Share Posted August 26, 2013 (edited) When I moved here almost 6 yrs back I found roads around Ohio to be fantastic compared to the roads back home in Michigan. Rode up to Traverse City in July to see my mom and rode back by the old house and OMG the roads were even worse. Bone jarring bad. Rode through Kentucky last month and those roads were sweet, even better than here. But 70 through Indiana and Illinois suck bad. Rode out west a couple years back. Missouri, Iowa, Nebraska, SD, Wyoming, Utah, Colorado, Kansas, roads were great like Kentucky, but once I crossed the Mississippi on 70, and the road reminded me I was back east. We were only on 2 lanes until mid Missouri and on home. Except, I had to run across i-90 IN Sd and part of Wyoming, legal at 75 mph. Ran that fast up i-75 to TC and damn that was a bone jarring ride. Edited August 26, 2013 by ohiomike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReconRat Posted August 26, 2013 Report Share Posted August 26, 2013 Lowest bidder = rock bottom cheapest materials lack of accountability = nationwide epidemic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drc32-0 Posted August 26, 2013 Report Share Posted August 26, 2013 (edited) Comparatively speaking,I think our roads are pretty good.I've been to/thru close to 15 states this year and I don't see where ours are any worse than most of the other states.Personally,I think a lot of our curvy stuff is better than most states that have comparable winters and terrain. Iowa?Is there really that much good riding in Iowa?Most of our best riding is in the hilly southeastern part of the state.These same hills that makes the riding so good also tends to lead to a lot of slips.From my experience,a lot of the road construction each year is slip repairs. Check into the ODOT site in march and see what paving projects are schedualed for the year and keep an eye on those roads.I can easily think of probably 10 good roads that have been paved in the last two years.You'll have plenty of fun roads to ride and it will be a little different each year as good roads are paved in different areas.Between now and 2017 there will be quite a few good roads paved under the STIP project...check it out. Edited August 26, 2013 by drc32-0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Medina Posted August 26, 2013 Report Share Posted August 26, 2013 Dunno about nationwide, but I've seen stretches of amazing roads in all the states I've been in....and, equally some flat out dangerous areas not suitable for four wheeled street machines.This morning in Pa, crossed a "road crew"......shoveling asphalt into holes..steaming asphalt...leaving the pile about 3-6" HIGHER than surrounding surface...stfu, the roller presses it in..right?no roller, no tamper not even the biggest fattest slob holding a shovel standing on it for a second or two...SOME of these were in the middle of a bend...I can't imagine hitting that in a bike at speed, we were stopped taking turns getting around so i was expecting it...last week down around Bellville, some excellent stretches of scenic sweeping bends. Good bad and ugly all over this great state Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DAC Posted August 27, 2013 Report Share Posted August 27, 2013 Maybe 'cause Ohio roads are build over clay on top of a fragmented limestone base?Nah. It's Obamallama's fault. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redkow97 Posted August 27, 2013 Report Share Posted August 27, 2013 Lowest bidder = rock bottom cheapest materials lack of accountability = nationwide epidemic Capitalism FTW! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anden Posted August 27, 2013 Report Share Posted August 27, 2013 The roads do seem to be in bad shape this year. I have noticed huge amounts of gravel out my way. In spots that I have never really noticed it before. No reason for the gravel to be there either. Its not pea sized gravel it is like driveway gravel. In some intersections I've found myself crawling through the turn. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Medina Posted August 27, 2013 Report Share Posted August 27, 2013 The roads do seem to be in bad shape this year. I have noticed huge amounts of gravel out my way. In spots that I have never really noticed it before. No reason for the gravel to be there either. Its not pea sized gravel it is like driveway gravel. In some intersections I've found myself crawling through the turn.I noticed with some of the insanely heavy rains, the same thing. didn't put two and two together till a customer was bitching about all the gravel that washed out of his driveway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tpoppa Posted August 27, 2013 Report Share Posted August 27, 2013 Capitalism FTW!I don't think that outdated criteria for selecting vendors for gub'ment contracts is the same as capitalism. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sapphy Posted August 27, 2013 Report Share Posted August 27, 2013 What? Warranty? Company? Accountability? The hell you say? I know, but what do you expect from a crazy blonde woman that refuses to make a samich for any of you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redkow97 Posted August 27, 2013 Report Share Posted August 27, 2013 We choose the government, and the government chooses the vendors. Ultimately, almost every issue falls back on the voters. How many of us would agree to higher taxes for better roads? Maybe a lot of US would, but the rest of the state won't prioritize the same.Until more people view it as a serious problem, there's no reason for the gov't to change anything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tpoppa Posted August 27, 2013 Report Share Posted August 27, 2013 We choose the government, and the government chooses the vendors.Ultimately, almost every issue falls back on the voters. How many of us would agree to higher taxes for better roads? Maybe a lot of US would, but the rest of the state won't prioritize the same.Until more people view it as a serious problem, there's no reason for the gov't to change anything. You think the government still follows the will of the people. That's adorable! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gump Posted August 27, 2013 Report Share Posted August 27, 2013 The gubment is people, like your neighbors. Now if 5 of your buddies are making serious change based on wasteful gubment spending. What would you do? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pokey Posted August 27, 2013 Report Share Posted August 27, 2013 PA has hands down the worst roads I have ever been on, and I have ridden in a few states. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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