dustinsn3485 Posted October 10, 2013 Report Share Posted October 10, 2013 (edited) I'm a bit biased toward this bike since I own a 2011. I've made some minor modifications to mine to make it more touring than sport, though it lacks nothing for sport riding still. I really feel like this is the ultimate bike for sport touring. Everyone seems to think the VFR is the bike to have, and up until Kawasaki came out with this bike I agreed. Now I don't think any other bike can touch the Ninja 1000. It combines the sport and the touring too well. For those that are wanting to get away from the supersports for something that is more comfortable without sacrificing the power of your current liter bike, this is the bike to have. http://www.motorcycledaily.com/2013/09/2014-kawasaki-ninja-1000-abs-md-first-ride-part-2-2/ Horsepower/Torque (Nm) 4K RPM 5K RPM 6K RPM 7K RPM 8K RPM Kawasaki Ninja 1000 (2011 model) 46/83 61/88 75/91 95/97 115/105 BMW S1000RR (2010 model) 41/76 56/83 65/77 80/84 102/92 Kawasaki ZX-10R (2013 model) 38/68 52/76 65/78 79/83 100/92 That’s right, at street RPM levels, the original Ninja 1000 was faster. And they note in the article that they've made improvements for the 2014 model. That bike has got to be a beast. Edited October 10, 2013 by dustinsn3485 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gixxus Christ! Posted October 10, 2013 Report Share Posted October 10, 2013 Do want. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helmutt Posted October 10, 2013 Report Share Posted October 10, 2013 Got a neighbor that has a 2013 Ninja 1k and he loves it. Glad Kawi built this model to compete in the liter ST's, and world's better than the pre '08 Connie 1k's Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Connie14 Posted October 10, 2013 Report Share Posted October 10, 2013 Nice bike! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZxHooligan Posted October 10, 2013 Report Share Posted October 10, 2013 I think I'd buy a z1000 there's just something about a naked bike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tpoppa Posted October 10, 2013 Report Share Posted October 10, 2013 The N1K is what the vfr1200 should have been. The 2014 is on my short list. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Butters Posted October 10, 2013 Report Share Posted October 10, 2013 They're just so ugly... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snot Posted October 10, 2013 Report Share Posted October 10, 2013 Junk. It's all a bunch of junk. I know someone that likes to say this about everything! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad324 Posted October 10, 2013 Report Share Posted October 10, 2013 The N1K is what the vfr1200 should have been. I couldn't agree more. They botched the 1200 really really bad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DAC Posted October 10, 2013 Report Share Posted October 10, 2013 The N1K is what the vfr1200 should have been. The 2014 is on my short list. Truth. The VFR12 is gettin' long in the tooth too. Maybe something better next time? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Butters Posted October 10, 2013 Report Share Posted October 10, 2013 I know a few people with vfr12s that fucking love them... So, if people who own them think they're great, not so sure about all the fail you guys always preach... Never ridden one so I don't have an opinion, but based on looks the new vfr blows this ninja away Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tpoppa Posted October 10, 2013 Report Share Posted October 10, 2013 (edited) I know a few people with vfr12s that fucking love them... So, if people who own them think they're great, not so sure about all the fail you guys always preach... Never ridden one so I don't have an opinion, but based on looks the new vfr blows this ninja away The fail is in the showroom. Plenty of deeply discounted 2010s will be sitting there for quite some time. Is the VFR12 an overweight, mediocre handling sport bike, or an uncomfortable sport tourer with short range and hard bags that are too small? For positives...it's a fast bike with Honda build quality. That may be good enough for some, but there are plenty of better bikes that cost a lot less than $16k. Edited October 10, 2013 by Tpoppa 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magley64 Posted October 10, 2013 Report Share Posted October 10, 2013 (edited) That’s right, at street RPM levels, the original Ninja 1000 was faster. What is a "street RPM level"? I wind my bike to red line in the first few gears usually. Then snap up to 6th to maintain speed. Edited October 10, 2013 by magley64 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad324 Posted October 10, 2013 Report Share Posted October 10, 2013 The fail is in the showroom. Plenty of deeply discounted 2010s will be sitting there for quite some time. Is the VFR12 an overweight, mediocre handling sport bike, or an uncomfortable sport tourer with short range and hard bags that are too small? For positives...it's a fast bike with Honda build quality. That may be good enough for some, but there are plenty of better bikes that cost a lot less than $16k. all this! Its like they took the positive things from the vfr800 and ignored them to make a fatter tweener Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pokey Posted October 10, 2013 Report Share Posted October 10, 2013 This is one sweet machine, could see one in my future. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Butters Posted October 10, 2013 Report Share Posted October 10, 2013 Just saying the only people I see bitch about the vfr12 are people who don't own one... My cb was a leftover, and definitely not a hot seller, but it's the best bike I've ever owned.. Enjoy it MUCH more than the vfr... Dealership sales don't mean anything, or else gsxr600s would be the best bike ever ever Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pokey Posted October 10, 2013 Report Share Posted October 10, 2013 Just saying the only people I see bitch about the vfr12 are people who don't own one... My cb was a leftover, and definitely not a hot seller, but it's the best bike I've ever owned.. Enjoy it MUCH more than the vfr... Dealership sales don't mean anything, or else gsxr600s would be the best bike ever ever The bike has no range, the tank is too small for it to be a sport touring machine. And the price for what you get is ridiculous, much much better all around choices for less money with more goodies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad324 Posted October 10, 2013 Report Share Posted October 10, 2013 also I found it to be uncomfortable in comparison. I test road one, granted it was only about 10 miles but I was just ridiculously unimpressed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tpoppa Posted October 10, 2013 Report Share Posted October 10, 2013 Just saying the only people I see bitch about the vfr12 are people who don't own one... My cb was a leftover, and definitely not a hot seller, but it's the best bike I've ever owned.. Enjoy it MUCH more than the vfr... Dealership sales don't mean anything, or else gsxr600s would be the best bike ever ever What is the VFR12? It looks like an ST, but Honda calls it a sport bike. It has serious flaws with either category. Your CB1000R hits it's mark much better than the VFR. I've seen new 2010 VFR12's advertised for under 10k, and that price is going to drop even further over the winter. I'd take a chance on a used one for $6.5k-ish...I'll bet they'll be selling for that by the end of next season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magley64 Posted October 10, 2013 Report Share Posted October 10, 2013 The XX didn't sell well either, but It is a fantastic machine.I'd rock a VFR12 if the price was right, slap a corbin on it and ride the heck out of it. I'd rather be riding something different than everyone else anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dustinsn3485 Posted October 10, 2013 Author Report Share Posted October 10, 2013 What is a "street RPM level"?I wind my bike to red line in the first few gears usually. Then snap up to 6th to maintain speed.You're a special case as is already obvious. If your reading comprehension skills were what you boast them to be you would see that the article feels street RPM are in the 4k-8k range Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magley64 Posted October 10, 2013 Report Share Posted October 10, 2013 You're a special case as is already obvious. If your reading comprehension skills were what you boast them to be you would see that the article feels street RPM are in the 4k-8k range Didn't bother reading the article, just the bit you quoted in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Butters Posted October 10, 2013 Report Share Posted October 10, 2013 Why keep mentioning range? The vfr800 doesn't have excellent range either... I got like 150 miles before needing to top off usually...It was riding the same line between sport and touring, doing well at both but not excelling in either ... Guess maybe you have to ride one a few miles to understand the hatred... But the new vfr is one of the most popular bikes out here, and everyone I know that's ridden one loves them ... My coworker rides the shit out of his... Does it tour like an ST? No, it's not an ST. it's not a cbr either... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dustinsn3485 Posted October 10, 2013 Author Report Share Posted October 10, 2013 The vfr1200 was marketed to compete withe the fjr and the C14 and it failed miserably. That's not saying it's a bad bike though. It is comparable to the N1000, except the N1000 does everything better. Again, I may be biased but I think it's quite a good looking bike too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Butters Posted October 10, 2013 Report Share Posted October 10, 2013 Fjr and c14 would compare to an st1300, not a vfr Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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