smashweights Posted November 5, 2013 Report Share Posted November 5, 2013 http://www.ducatiusa.com/bikes/monster_1200_s/index.do http://www.asphaltandrubber.com/bikes/2014-ducati-monster-1200/ IMHO:Pros:-Ditched the giant fender, i LOVE the Diavel-style plate holder, hopefully this will be portable to the 1100EVO-Ohlins suspension option: my biggest complaint with the 1100EVO is the suspension-Bigger fuel tankCons:-Looks like a Streetfighter and Diavel had a baby and this is what came out. Not ugly per se, but you can clearly see they mixed the two stylistically. The style is good, but overall looks substantially more bulky than the EVO, do not like that part at all. Still, looks way better than the naked Triumphs.- +30lbs dry weight, +47lbs kerb weight.- +$1500 base price, + $3000 S modelBe interesting to hear it and see if the engine sounds as awesome as the 1100EVO does. No plans to swap out the EVO, but if one of these wrecks and I can steal the suspension and license plate bracket, i'll take it ;-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Revelstoker Posted November 6, 2013 Report Share Posted November 6, 2013 Pass, rather have an airhead. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moto-Brian Posted November 6, 2013 Report Share Posted November 6, 2013 Stunning yet powerful in person.Yes, more weight. But, you get 35 more hp standard and 45 more for the S. White is actually great, but the red is really sharp and my fav. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pokey Posted November 6, 2013 Report Share Posted November 6, 2013 I"ll pass.......on pretty much any European motorcycle, I like my cheap ole reliable Japanese machines. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Revelstoker Posted November 6, 2013 Report Share Posted November 6, 2013 I think they did a better job the first time they tried this: 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mary#17 Posted November 6, 2013 Report Share Posted November 6, 2013 My husband has this bike and it is a blast to ride. I do like this new version though as well. Nice to see them upping the horsepower and performance. I think they did a better job the first time they tried this: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mary#17 Posted November 6, 2013 Report Share Posted November 6, 2013 Plus, I like the bigger fuel capacity. Hunting around for gas every 80 miles can be a pita as well as downright scary when you are out in the boonies with no stations for miles. Makes planning trips a bit more interesting though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thedak Posted November 6, 2013 Report Share Posted November 6, 2013 I dig it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tpoppa Posted November 6, 2013 Report Share Posted November 6, 2013 The wheelbase looks loooong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScubaCinci Posted November 6, 2013 Report Share Posted November 6, 2013 I like..I must be getting old. When I look at this bike, I wonder where the oil filter is and how easy is it to get to it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magley64 Posted November 6, 2013 Report Share Posted November 6, 2013 (edited) Looks like a giant grom. Edited November 6, 2013 by magley64 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pokey Posted November 7, 2013 Report Share Posted November 7, 2013 Whatever. My Ducs are as reliable as any Japanese bike I've owned. Kind of hard to fuck up a bike that has the pedigree of a sewing machine.Japan makes reliable products. There's no question. That's why my cars are Japanese. I could give a shit if they're soulless. My bikes, however...they need to hit the mark. The closest Japanese bike I owned that "stirred my soul" was my TL1000, and it was a piece of shit in terms of mechanical design and function. It was brutal and uncompromising, though. I did like that part. Too much maintenance to keep them running and need special tools for some stuff.......I will still pass, Now I would own one as a 3rd or 4th bike mind you, but for sure not a primary or second bike. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hailwood Posted November 7, 2013 Report Share Posted November 7, 2013 I like the new design well enough, but I'm sad to see the air-cooled engines go away. I only owned my 900SS for a relatively short period of time, but that bike was a joy to ride, and I have never had another bike that was as easy and intuitive to work on. The earlier liquid cooled bikes got something of a bad rep for reliability, but those air-cooled motors were completely bullet-proof as long as you took very basic care of them. Combine that with enough torque (especially with the later DS versions) for a goofy looking Eye-talian tractor to walk away from an OMGWTFBBQ liter bike in real world riding, and you've got a really appealing setup. I'll definitely own another air-cooled Duc at some point, especially if I can find a nice SS1000DS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moto-Brian Posted November 7, 2013 Report Share Posted November 7, 2013 Too much maintenance to keep them running and need special tools for some stuff.......I will still pass, Now I would own one as a 3rd or 4th bike mind you, but for sure not a primary or second bike. You are among several that are not well sorted in today's Ducati. No special tools other than a rear axle socket. None. Hell, I had more special tools needed for my GSXRs than I need for the Panigale I have. Also, major service intervals are 15k plus on every Duc now. Every single one in the line... The thing to remember is that yes... in the past, they had issues, had low service intervals and had to rely on special stuff to operate them. I believe that IP can maybe attest, but even the belts are easy to maintain... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moto-Brian Posted November 7, 2013 Report Share Posted November 7, 2013 I like the new design well enough, but I'm sad to see the air-cooled engines go away. I only owned my 900SS for a relatively short period of time, but that bike was a joy to ride, and I have never had another bike that was as easy and intuitive to work on. The earlier liquid cooled bikes got something of a bad rep for reliability, but those air-cooled motors were completely bullet-proof as long as you took very basic care of them. Combine that with enough torque (especially with the later DS versions) for a goofy looking Eye-talian tractor to walk away from an OMGWTFBBQ liter bike in real world riding, and you've got a really appealing setup. I'll definitely own another air-cooled Duc at some point, especially if I can find a nice SS1000DS. The issue is we cannot get the performance and longevity and low service hours from air cooled stuff. These liquid cooled jobies are getting the performance we desire and as enthusiasts, LOVE. Don't get me wrong... I love me some air cooled Ducs. I really do. I see them and fall in love. They have a soul. I think several of our bikes have souls. The Pani is the most amazing bike I have raced. I know that the future may being us better bikes and will have me saying this same thing again. But, compared to my GSXR that was awesome, fast and brilliant - the Duc has something where it causes emotion. Even the RC8 didn't cause me to smile as much as this thing does. The Hyper, The MTS, the Monsters. All bring me to thoughts of why I enjoy motorcycles. When I ride a Japanese bike, I feel the engineering has made it almost too perfect. And, the Pani flirts with that idea. Until you fire it up, hear it blast a striaght at the track, or when you look at it... The new Monster is amazing. It is pure Ducati and takes what they have always had and simply evolved it a little. It really does take that heritage and builds on it... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magley64 Posted November 7, 2013 Report Share Posted November 7, 2013 (edited) My bike has no soul.. It's just remarkably powerful, and requires no maintenence to be incredibly reliable. The only time I hit the button and it wouldn't start, I had a weak battery. Maybe if I ever owned a bike with a soul, it would mean something to me... as of now I just want something that thrills me when i rock the throttle, and has enough clearance, grip, and stability for me to throw it through some corners as fast as I dare. Edited November 7, 2013 by magley64 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan_c_F Posted November 7, 2013 Report Share Posted November 7, 2013 I want to say it's ugly, but I ride a Katana. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZxHooligan Posted November 7, 2013 Report Share Posted November 7, 2013 My bike has no soul.. It's just remarkably powerful, and requires no maintenence to be incredibly reliable. The only time I hit the button and it wouldn't start, I had a weak battery. Maybe if I ever owned a bike with a soul, it would mean something to me... as of now I just want something that thrills me when i rock the throttle, and has enough clearance, grip, and stability for me to throw it through some corners as fast as I dare.You ride a hyper bike they have plenty of soul as im finding out with my 12. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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