YSR_Racer_99 Posted November 13, 2013 Report Share Posted November 13, 2013 (edited) Yes it does happen. Right here in the great state of Ohio. http://www.wlwt.com/news/local-news/cincinnati/poll-worker-gets-5year-sentence-for-illegal-voting/-/13549970/21014378/-/mwbbrsz/-/index.html Now that we have established that it does happen, and as you have repeatably said these voter ID laws don't hurt anything I am assuming you will be changing your position on this issue? Lets at least give him a Fox News link: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/07/19/cincinnati-poll-worker-sentenced-to-5-years-for-voter-fraud-in-presidential/ And then there's an MSNBC link, posted here because nobody watches that channel:http://news.msn.com/us/30-cincinnati-cops-committed-voter-fraud-wont-be-charged Now that we've got a "trusted" pollworker and a gaggle of cops, lets throw a nun into the mix:http://news.cincinnati.com/article/20130416/NEWS0107/304160065 BTW, I'm still convinced that the election was stolen by many people such as this. I also believe that it will continue to happen on a large scale. Allowing people to vote without presenting an ID card is assinine. Period. I have to show an id to buy a beer (though the gray hair on my head is usually all they need) and don't think that showing a valid ID in order to vote, nor that having your name checked-off on a list is unreasonable. Why should ANYONE be allowed to vote more than once? Anyone on public assistance already has some form of ID, so it shouldn't be an issue. Its clear and obvious what the liberals' intent is with this, and its reprehensible. But then, if they played by the rules, they'd lose. And they know it. So they start cheating early. Edited November 13, 2013 by YSR_Racer_99 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tonik Posted November 13, 2013 Author Report Share Posted November 13, 2013 Oh, look...a gun control segue. We are going to segue into Abortion soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magley64 Posted November 13, 2013 Report Share Posted November 13, 2013 We are going to segue into Abortion soon. this thread started as an abortion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tonik Posted November 13, 2013 Author Report Share Posted November 13, 2013 this thread started as an abortion. So, which is more important. The 32,000 gun deaths in the US, or the the 1.2 million unborn children that are murdered each year? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad324 Posted November 13, 2013 Report Share Posted November 13, 2013 Too bad you didn't. That's not nice, but goddamn was it funny. I was about to say the same damn thing. HE left the joke way too wide open to not take it 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magley64 Posted November 13, 2013 Report Share Posted November 13, 2013 So, which is more important. The 32,000 gun deaths in the US, or the the 1.2 million unborn children that are murdered each year? How about the billions of unborn children you shot into the bed sheets? or down her face? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pokey Posted November 13, 2013 Report Share Posted November 13, 2013 How about the billions of unborn children you shot into the bed sheets? or down her face? I thought you knew, loved and were a fan of science, if so surely you realize that cum is not a living breathing child? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magley64 Posted November 13, 2013 Report Share Posted November 13, 2013 (edited) I thought you knew, loved and were a fan of science, if so surely you realize that cum is not a living breathing child? exactly, and neither is a zygote...the stage when most of these supposed "murders" take place. if a zygote is a living breathing child, so is a sperm... Edited November 13, 2013 by magley64 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pokey Posted November 13, 2013 Report Share Posted November 13, 2013 I guess if a living breathing child cannot live outside of the womb yet, it cannot be a child? So after 4 days "which the zygote period ends" you are saying that most abortions are occurring? The fetus stage occurs at approx 9 weeks, and I can assure you that TOO MANY abortions are still occurring much after that. Most documented abortions are occurring at 8/9 weeks, but after that the growth and development is occurring pretty quickly. My sister is the National Director for Heartbeats International, so she knows a thing or 2 about what is "really" going on out there. If a woman chooses to make that horrible decision "for whatever reason", she is the one that ultimately must live with that. There is always going to be an example of what many will consider a justified reason, but once again they are the one who must live with the consequences either way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magley64 Posted November 13, 2013 Report Share Posted November 13, 2013 (edited) I guess if a living breathing child cannot live outside of the womb yet, it cannot be a child? So after 4 days "which the zygote period ends" you are saying that most abortions are occurring? The fetus stage occurs at approx 9 weeks, and I can assure you that TOO MANY abortions are still occurring much after that. Most documented abortions are occurring at 8/9 weeks, but after that the growth and development is occurring pretty quickly. My sister is the National Director for Heartbeats International, so she knows a thing or 2 about what is "really" going on out there. If a woman chooses to make that horrible decision "for whatever reason", she is the one that ultimately must live with that. There is always going to be an example of what many will consider a justified reason, but once again they are the one who must live with the consequences either way. I agree... I try to stay as neutral as possible on the abortion issue because by the nature of... well... nature, I've got very little say in it anyway. Women need to make choices about their health and their own bodies. If they don't want to gestate, I don't think it's the government's job to force them to. At the same time I'm morally opposed to women using abortions as a means of ongoing birth control, this doesn't mean I'd support any further restrictions to the procedure. On a side note, regardless of how much i abhor religious organizations, I think the counseling centers like heartbeat international are a great resource for giving young women help if they feel pressured into an abortion decision... Edited November 13, 2013 by magley64 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tonik Posted November 13, 2013 Author Report Share Posted November 13, 2013 I agree... I try to stay as neutral as possible on the abortion issue because by the nature of... well... nature, I've got very little say in it anyway. Women need to make choices about their health and their own bodies. If they don't want to gestate, I don't think it's the government's job to force them to. At the same time I'm morally opposed to women using abortions as a means of ongoing birth control, this doesn't mean I'd support any further restrictions to the procedure. On a side note, regardless of how much i abhor religious organizations, I think the counseling centers like heartbeat international are a great resource for giving young women help if they feel pressured into an abortion decision... That's it, the end of the world is upon us. Triggered by a reasonable post by my friend Mag's. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbot Posted November 13, 2013 Report Share Posted November 13, 2013 BABY MURDERERSSSSSSSSS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magley64 Posted November 13, 2013 Report Share Posted November 13, 2013 Dead future Liberals. Where's the problem? Cause every conservative has conservative children?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad324 Posted November 13, 2013 Report Share Posted November 13, 2013 your sense of humor lacks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tonik Posted November 13, 2013 Author Report Share Posted November 13, 2013 Dead future Liberals. Where's the problem? 55 Million dead liberals since Roe v Wade. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Posted November 13, 2013 Report Share Posted November 13, 2013 with all the concern about fraud in this thread, it's kind of strange that no one has even mentioned the vulnerable machines. its not "voter" fraud, it's "election" fraud. https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/354249-california-2007-top-to-bottom-review-sequoia.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tonik Posted November 13, 2013 Author Report Share Posted November 13, 2013 Good. The more, the better.The only good liberal is a dead liberal. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turnone Posted November 14, 2013 Report Share Posted November 14, 2013 (edited) with all the concern about fraud in this thread, it's kind of strange that no one has even mentioned the vulnerable machines.its not "voter" fraud, it's "election" fraud.https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/354249-california-2007-top-to-bottom-review-sequoia.htmlGo back to my earlier post and I specifically say I worry about that. Or I tried to say that. Edited November 14, 2013 by turnone Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turnone Posted November 14, 2013 Report Share Posted November 14, 2013 It is my understanding that classic rebuplican voters are old and white. The two demographics that are changing. These old people will soon die and due to immigration and birthing trends, the white vote is becoming a smaller portion of the electorate. It is also well known that republican candidates are more likely to win when there is lower voter turnout. I think it is entirely plausible, if not down right likely, that voter ID laws pushed by Republicans are meant to suppress the vote. I have already established that in person voter fraud is MINISCULE at best and these laws won't change that. Now, just because the repubs got that wrong, at least initially by stirring up the minority vote, doesn't mean it wasn't their intention. Please argue with facts. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magley64 Posted November 14, 2013 Report Share Posted November 14, 2013 Please argue with facts. Can't argue with facts... lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbot Posted November 14, 2013 Report Share Posted November 14, 2013 i see just as many facts being posted to support that voter ID laws (which I am against, btw) are for the purpose of suppressing minority votes as I do for the idea that it reduces voter fraud. i can see why it's a popular idea, since it sounds like it seems like common sense to be able to verify that the person voting is in fact the person who is voting... that said, i find it hypocritical to be against voter ID laws if you are for crazy, ineffective gun control laws, though (and vice versa) because they operate on the same tard principles of putting the burden of "guilty until proven innocent" on the very people its meant to protect. it's a shining example of the kind of hypocrisy exemplified by partisan politics that is the bane of this country. it's all derptastic, and your mouth and eyes are too full of donkey/elephant cock and balls to see it. take a step back, breathe the fresh air of freedom, and see that the currently existing political system is a giant tentacle monster, elbows deep inside of you, with the sole purpose of fucking you until you're dead and then they move onto your children, and your children's children. jbot for president. the tentacle monster political party, 2016. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blue03636 Posted November 14, 2013 Report Share Posted November 14, 2013 jbot for president. the tentacle monster political party, 2016. I'm writing you in on the ballot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smccrory Posted November 14, 2013 Report Share Posted November 14, 2013 Jbot I'm going to find something in your post to disagree with if it f'n kills me. Could I have a little time to come up with something? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magley64 Posted November 14, 2013 Report Share Posted November 14, 2013 (edited) please define "crazy, ineffective gun control laws" also, what happens when someone who isn't supposed to vote, votes?And what happens when someone who isn't supposed to have a gun, gets a gun? Edited November 14, 2013 by magley64 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tonik Posted November 14, 2013 Author Report Share Posted November 14, 2013 that said, i find it hypocritical to be against voter ID laws if you are for crazy, ineffective gun control laws, though..... Try this one on. Repubs are against killing unborn children but are in favor of killing serial killers. Dems are in favor of murdering unborn children but are opposed to killing serial killers. Just makes me want to go postal some times. Everyone wants their side to 'win'. Never mind everyone is actually losing. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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