Tonik Posted May 28, 2014 Report Share Posted May 28, 2014 (edited) ...."We are bringing our troops home from Afghanistan. And I've set a timetable. We will have them all out of there by 2014. Gov. Romney doesn't have a timetable. I think he's wrong," the president said. http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/ticket/obama-romney-no-timetable-end-afghan-war-231510087--election.html Well, he lied again. They are staying. This should be interesting. The Libs/Dems should scream and condemn him and the Repubs/Conservatives should praise him for not following a timetable and finishing the job. But I won't hold my breath. Edited May 28, 2014 by Tonik Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReconRat Posted May 28, 2014 Report Share Posted May 28, 2014 (edited) There's something there we want. Best guess: hard to find metals and mining. The Chinese aren't there for the hell of it. So are we. Well ok, copper is at the top of the Chinese list, it's not readily available for them.We might be there for rare earth metals, China isn't short on those and they charge us a lot.Somebody shout "Oil! It's all about the oil!" so I can laugh. Edited May 28, 2014 by ReconRat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tonik Posted May 28, 2014 Author Report Share Posted May 28, 2014 Might be as simple as influence on the area. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigerpaw Posted May 28, 2014 Report Share Posted May 28, 2014 It's all about a strategic foothold(flight path) near Iran. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Butters Posted May 28, 2014 Report Share Posted May 28, 2014 inb4 magtard and matttard come in here with some libtastical bs about how that isnt really what he meant to say, or some how bush caused a chain reaction that forced o'shithead to change his plans 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smccrory Posted May 28, 2014 Report Share Posted May 28, 2014 I don't care if it's nuanced or not, like every president making big adjustments to their foreign policy once they know the real deal about global politics with executive clearance, I'm fucking sick of our boys and girls getting killed for questionable gain, based on "American exceptionalism" ethics that don't hold water(boarding) under examination. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strictly Street Posted May 29, 2014 Report Share Posted May 29, 2014 He has been trying to make friends over there. Mixed successes, some would argue he's making the wrong friends, others would say he is stabilizing the area.I'm sure he has a plan, what it is isn't too clear. History will tell for sure but in the mean time it sure looks like he should make different choices. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReconRat Posted May 30, 2014 Report Share Posted May 30, 2014 (edited) Actually, I'm guessing we're pulling some troops out and quietly putting them on the Syrian border.The number already there is pretty high. Just advisers, nothing to see here, move along... edit: When all of those advisers are trained as FAC, they will be difficult to deal with. Edited May 30, 2014 by ReconRat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smccrory Posted May 30, 2014 Report Share Posted May 30, 2014 What's up with the reasonable, measured and thoughtful posts guys? Is this still OR? I'm so lost, scared and lonely now... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tonik Posted May 30, 2014 Author Report Share Posted May 30, 2014 The lunatics can't post in this thread. They know they are totally owned on this one. Both sides are. Shame they are not man enough to come in here and admit it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeavyDuty Posted May 30, 2014 Report Share Posted May 30, 2014 (edited) Afghanistan has some of the largest deposits of lithium in the world ( battery Power )I can’t think of anything that he has actually kept his promise on except Obama Care and look how well that has worked out.When Hilary runs she will promise paid menstrual cycle leave for all working woman. Edited May 30, 2014 by HeavyDuty Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smccrory Posted May 30, 2014 Report Share Posted May 30, 2014 When Hilary runs she will promise paid menstrual cycle leave for all working woman. Aaaaand OR is back! Thanks for restoring my faith in the Internet HD. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tonik Posted May 30, 2014 Author Report Share Posted May 30, 2014 He has been trying to make friends over there. "Name one country with whom we have better relationships today than we did when he became president of the United States almost six years ago." http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2014/05/29/engel_hard_pressed_to_find_country_where_relations_have_improved_under_obama.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strictly Street Posted May 30, 2014 Report Share Posted May 30, 2014 "Name one country with whom we have better relationships today than we did when he became president of the United States almost six years ago." http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2014/05/29/engel_hard_pressed_to_find_country_where_relations_have_improved_under_obama.html Perhaps I wasn't clear. I didn't say he succeeded, just that he tried. There was that thing in Egypt he tried, didn't work out so well for him though.And the nuclear thing in Iran he's trying. They still hate us though. He's gotten Israel pissed at us. It might be easier to try to make enemies instead.Maybe he should get a dog. Or he could just play golf for the next couple of years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ohiomike Posted May 30, 2014 Report Share Posted May 30, 2014 Maybe he should get a dog. Or he could just play golf for the next couple of years.Or maybe he should just go away....far far away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tonik Posted May 30, 2014 Author Report Share Posted May 30, 2014 I would contend that other than the usual lapdogs the world is more pissed at us. Certainly that is true with Europe, mid east, russia....and others I can't think of now.He can't play anymore golf than he already is. He plays far more than Bush, who the left ridiculed for it. Nite the don't say Jack. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strictly Street Posted May 31, 2014 Report Share Posted May 31, 2014 I would contend that other than the usual lapdogs the world is more pissed at us. Certainly that is true with Europe, mid east, russia....and others I can't think of now.He can't play anymore golf than he already is. He plays far more than Bush, who the left ridiculed for it. Nite the don't say Jack. So the next question is: Is the world a safer place when Obama is playing golf? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ohiomike Posted June 1, 2014 Report Share Posted June 1, 2014 I watched some TV about the Kennedy admin, in particular the Bay of Pigs and the failed invasion......unbelievable how much politics has changed, how far from the center the democratic party, and oh yes the republican party as well, has moved further left. I love this quote-"Victory has 100 fathers, defeat is an orphan"- 1961 press conference about his admittance of fault over the failed Bay of Pigs invasion.The CIA had more to do with the whole failure, but a leader stood before the world and took the heat. The next day Kennedy's ratings with the public shot up to over a 90% approval rating. Too bad leaders today don't do the same. If they did maybe their approval ratings would be higher than their disapproval numbers and things would be different. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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