2talltim Posted August 12, 2014 Report Share Posted August 12, 2014 Looks like Suzuki is getting into the naked I4 liter bike market and giving the Z1000 and CB1000R some competition. http://www.motorcycle.com/manufacturer/suzuki/2015-suzuki-gsx-s1000-spied.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helmutt Posted August 12, 2014 Report Share Posted August 12, 2014 Kind of late to the party, but I do see Brembo and ABS in the pics Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zx3vfr Posted August 12, 2014 Report Share Posted August 12, 2014 cb1000r is a bust imo. Going directly after the z1000 maybe even the s1000r. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Butters Posted August 13, 2014 Report Share Posted August 13, 2014 (edited) Based on what? Have you ridden one? Best bike I've ever owned. I had a choice between a leftover 13 z1k and a 12 cb and after sitting on them, the cb won hands down.. Nimble, tons of power and torque, sure it won't do 180 but it'll keep up with supersports with 50 more hp from 0-100... What makes it a "bust"? Because it has less hp than the others? I'd be surprised if very many people here could even use the power it has to full potential. Shit, it wheelies in 1-3 wot. Stock suspension is fully adjustable and adequate for my big ass, at least as much as factory suspension can be. Brakes are adequate enough to lock up when you want to... I honestly can't think of one thing the gixxer does better, besides going in a straight line.. Can't be styling, the gixxer is pretty much an identical clone to my bike except no single sided swing arm... Just very curious why you think it's a bust.. We obviously all have our own opinions, not attacking you or anything, just puzzled Edited August 13, 2014 by Steve Butters 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heagachongoose Posted August 13, 2014 Report Share Posted August 13, 2014 Agreed. From a design standpoint it looks identical to the honda. I'm sure the Suzuki is an awesome bike in its own right though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Butters Posted August 13, 2014 Report Share Posted August 13, 2014 Agreed. I'd be happy to own the cb, gixxer, z1k, or BMW... And I would expect to pull similar times on any of them because my skill level doesn't match what any of them can do.. Just comes down to preference.. Just curious, aside from spec sheets, what makes the cb a bust compared to the other 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zx3vfr Posted August 13, 2014 Report Share Posted August 13, 2014 Based on what? Have you ridden one? Best bike I've ever owned. I had a choice between a leftover 13 z1k and a 12 cb and after sitting on them, the cb won hands down.. Nimble, tons of power and torque, sure it won't do 180 but it'll keep up with supersports with 50 more hp from 0-100... What makes it a "bust"? Because it has less hp than the others? I'd be surprised if very many people here could even use the power it has to full potential. Shit, it wheelies in 1-3 wot. Stock suspension is fully adjustable and adequate for my big ass, at least as much as factory suspension can be. Brakes are adequate enough to lock up when you want to... I honestly can't think of one thing the gixxer does better, besides going in a straight line.. Can't be styling, the gixxer is pretty much an identical clone to my bike except no single sided swing arm... Just very curious why you think it's a bust.. We obviously all have our own opinions, not attacking you or anything, just puzzledsales wise and mag reviews. But honda usualy gets ripped a new one anyway from most mag reviews . It always seems honda tries to build the jack of all trades amd we know what that means. Im sure its a fine bike to own and ive only been on one once but after owning hondas, they have no soul imo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Butters Posted August 13, 2014 Report Share Posted August 13, 2014 Every naked is a bust here looking at sales... Seems like majority of people I see on sport bikes are just douchey posers who bought a Supersport to look cool... I'll be interested to see if maybe this new bike will be the one that changes it.. Give squids a reason to try naked bikes since it says gsxr on it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tpoppa Posted August 13, 2014 Report Share Posted August 13, 2014 It does look a lot like the CB1000R, except for the headlight that looks like it came off of a Kawasaki ER-6N. I like the CB. It would have sold better in the US if it had another 20hp. btw, here is an interesting read about Honda. They don't seem too focused anymore on building bikes to match the tastes of US riders. http://www.motorcyclistonline.com/blogs/wth-honda-megaphoneHonda simply isn’t building bikes for us anymore. Faced with ever-increasing pressure regarding emissions, economy, and resource scarcity, Honda is shifting focus from performance to practicality. At the same time it’s shifting focus from Western markets to predominantly Asian markets where two-thirds of the world’s population—and the bulk of future consumer demand—is centered. Raised on scooters and riding in congested urban environs that look nothing like where we ride, the machines are evolving to suit their tastes, not ours. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh1234 Posted August 13, 2014 Report Share Posted August 13, 2014 Every naked is a bust here looking at sales... Seems like majority of people I see on sport bikes are just douchey posers who bought a Supersport to look cool... Hey, *I* didn't buy a supersport just to look cool! I bought a Sport-Touring bike to look cool! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kritz Posted August 13, 2014 Report Share Posted August 13, 2014 http://www.motorcyclistonline.com/blogs/wth-honda-megaphoneHonda simply isn’t building bikes for us anymore. Faced with ever-increasing pressure regarding emissions, economy, and resource scarcity, Honda is shifting focus from performance to practicality. At the same time it’s shifting focus from Western markets to predominantly Asian markets where two-thirds of the world’s population—and the bulk of future consumer demand—is centered. Raised on scooters and riding in congested urban environs that look nothing like where we ride, the machines are evolving to suit their tastes, not ours.Interseting read. Sort of coincides with them stopping US motorcylcle production here in Ohio. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScubaCinci Posted August 13, 2014 Report Share Posted August 13, 2014 I don't know why naked bikes aren't more popular here in the states. I hate having all the plastic on the bike. More to break, more to wash, more to remove when changing the oil etc. I think Butters is right about many buying the full fairing bikes for the bling factor. That look is tired IMO. I say, the 90's called, they want their bikes back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2talltim Posted August 13, 2014 Author Report Share Posted August 13, 2014 Hey, *I* didn't buy a supersport just to look cool! I bought a Sport-Touring bike to look cool!I bought a sport touring bike to make them look cool. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tpoppa Posted August 13, 2014 Report Share Posted August 13, 2014 The reasons I ride a supersport are for the high quality suspension components and the handling. I couldn't care less about the appearance. After going through it both ways, I'm happier with the results of modifying a great handling motorcycle to be more comfortable, that trying to make a comfortable bike handle better. Most naked bikes don't have suspension in the same league as a SS and they are typically heavier. There are exceptions, like the Street Triple and S1000R. I'd happily own either of those. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3.504 Posted August 13, 2014 Report Share Posted August 13, 2014 That new Suzuki is interesting, but I don't see it doing any better than the cb1000rI feel like those interested in a liter class sport naked, will look at euro brands. those interested in Japanese brands will look at supersports.I don't doubt it will be a nice bike, but I won't be buying one. I prefer big twins, so the likes of ktm, Ducati and EBR have my attention. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Butters Posted August 13, 2014 Report Share Posted August 13, 2014 The reasons I ride a supersport are for the high quality suspension components and the handling. I couldn't care less about the appearance.After going through it both ways, I'm happier with the results of modifying a great handling motorcycle to be more comfortable, that trying to make a comfortable bike handle better.Most naked bikes don't have suspension in the same league as a SS and they are typically heavier. There are exceptions, like the Street Triple and S1000R. I'd happily own either of those.My ccomments weren't aimed at all supersport riders.. I'd imagine most people here are actual enthusiasts... Just talking about the people you see riding around in flip flops with their gold chain Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Butters Posted August 13, 2014 Report Share Posted August 13, 2014 I feel like those interested in a liter class sport naked, will look at euro brands. those interested in Japanese brands will look at supersports.Lol my Honda was made in Italy.. Does that count? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueskeyes Posted August 13, 2014 Report Share Posted August 13, 2014 Japanese just do not know how to build an appealing naked for the US market. The Europeans have given us the Tuono, Speed Triple, Super Duke, S1000R, and the Monster and Streetfighter. They basically just took their top end SS, and gave it better ergos. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3.504 Posted August 13, 2014 Report Share Posted August 13, 2014 Lol my Honda was made in Italy.. Does that count? If you count it!I'm really not putting down the Japanese nakeds, they're actually great machines. Japanese always build a quality product. I'm just speaking in what I think the us market would reflect in sales figures.Unfortunately, most of what I see atop Japanese supersports are usually dressed in nothing more than an icon vest, ripped stone wash jeans, brand new bleach white tennis shoes that are untied, mechanix gloves, backwards ball cap and Oakley sunglasses. While I agree they are super cool looking... I doubt they're using the motorcycle for its intended/designed purpose.And yes, I'm a total bike snob. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Butters Posted August 13, 2014 Report Share Posted August 13, 2014 US market is all about bigger and better... I think blueskeyes hit the nail on the head.. It's all about how much hp is on the spec sheet... If these companies took their Supersport bikes and threw bars on them and removed fairings, they would sell much better, but would lose the fun factor that current nakeds have Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdonn Posted August 14, 2014 Report Share Posted August 14, 2014 IMHO, I think the naked gixxer looks awesome. But that is just my opinion. I love the look of the z1k too though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueskeyes Posted August 14, 2014 Report Share Posted August 14, 2014 US market is all about bigger and better... I think blueskeyes hit the nail on the head.. It's all about how much hp is on the spec sheet... If these companies took their Supersport bikes and threw bars on them and removed fairings, they would sell much better, but would lose the fun factor that current nakeds have But Yamaha has figured out something with the FZ9. I just wonder how much of that is due to the price point. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScubaCinci Posted August 14, 2014 Report Share Posted August 14, 2014 The nakeds seem to be getting more popular...maybe you are right about being due to pricing but I think once people start riding them, they won't go back. They are just as fun as the supersports IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
max power Posted August 14, 2014 Report Share Posted August 14, 2014 Love my nekkid liter bike. Fun, fast, comfortable. What more could you ask for? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh1234 Posted August 14, 2014 Report Share Posted August 14, 2014 Love my nekkid liter bike. Fun, fast, comfortable.What more could you ask for? Fairings, and the ability to WOT while keeping both wheels planted for stability Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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