Anden Posted January 5, 2015 Report Share Posted January 5, 2015 Needs to go here I guess. Enjoy your workout schedual.http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=107926751 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carwhore Posted January 5, 2015 Report Share Posted January 5, 2015 my goals are to get ripped! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rawlins87 Posted January 5, 2015 Report Share Posted January 5, 2015 Yeah, if you do low carb for awhile (which keeps the water weight off) and have a cheat day, you'll gain 5-8 lbs overnight haha. It comes right back off though once you are back on the wagon. Back in 2005 I lost 80lbs on low carb. Unfortunately, soon after I went back to school and over the course of 2 years, gained it back and then some. I will be down 100lbs this time next year which should be my ideal weight. Ready, go!Low carb doesn't keep water weight off.It will keep glycogen stores lower. Which are built back up after a high carb meal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rawlins87 Posted January 5, 2015 Report Share Posted January 5, 2015 April 4th NASA Powerlifting Ohio meet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScubaCinci Posted January 5, 2015 Report Share Posted January 5, 2015 (edited) Low carb doesn't keep water weight off.It will keep glycogen stores lower. Which are built back up after a high carb meal.You are partially right. The glycogen stores get low which is what makes the diet work so well as it has to look to fat stores to replenish the glycogen. Glycogen holds water (I think 4 grams H2O to every 1 gram glycogen). So yes, it does reduce water weight which you keep off as long as you continue to eat low carb as it goes hand in hand with glycogen. Edited January 5, 2015 by ScubaCinci Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rawlins87 Posted January 5, 2015 Report Share Posted January 5, 2015 (edited) You are partially right. The glycogen stores get low which is what makes the diet work so well as it has to look to fat stores to replenish the glycogen. Glycogen holds water (I think 4 grams H2O to every 1 gram glycogen). So yes, it does reduce water weight which you keep off as long as you continue to eat low carb as it goes hand in hand with glycogen.Which isn't compeltely sustainable!(low carb for long periods of time), so it doesn't really reduce water weight.Comparing the water which makes up glycogen and water itself Isn't the same. That would be like saying carbon and carbon monoxide are the same because they both have carbon. Edited January 5, 2015 by rawlins87 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rawlins87 Posted January 5, 2015 Report Share Posted January 5, 2015 Drinking more water than normal will also reduce water weight. But not like I ever had to cut weight to make a weight class... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zx3vfr Posted January 6, 2015 Author Report Share Posted January 6, 2015 Low carb doesn't keep water weight off.It will keep glycogen stores lower. Which are built back up after a high carb meal.Well when cutting out sodium laden soda and crisps by going low carb, its a side effect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aforrest4 Posted January 6, 2015 Report Share Posted January 6, 2015 There was a time in my life where I lost 30 lbs by just cutting out soft drinks, not having more than one biscuit or piece of bread per meal, and cutting back my cheese intake. Now I have to watch my processed sugar intake and saturated fat. When I do, I see immediate results. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScubaCinci Posted January 6, 2015 Report Share Posted January 6, 2015 Which isn't compeltely sustainable!(low carb for long periods of time), so it doesn't really reduce water weight.Comparing the water which makes up glycogen and water itself Isn't the same. That would be like saying carbon and carbon monoxide are the same because they both have carbon.I never said the water loss was forever, just as long as you remain in a low carb state. I'm not comparing glycogen and water...not sure where you see a comparison. Glycogen stored in the body retains water - 4 grams for every one gram of glycogen. Look it up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zx3vfr Posted January 6, 2015 Author Report Share Posted January 6, 2015 There was a time in my life where I lost 30 lbs by just cutting out soft drinks, not having more than one biscuit or piece of bread per meal, and cutting back my cheese intake. Now I have to watch my processed sugar intake and saturated fat. When I do, I see immediate results.I eat tons of saturated fat. I limit my carbs to about 150 grams a day which is tons of veggies. I ocassionaly eat rice or oats or corn but usually feel pretty lousy after I do. My normal day consists of Breakfast - 4 strips of bacon 2 fried eggs. 1/2 an onion and a whole bell pepper fried in bacon grease or coconut oil. Lunch - 1 cup of full fat yogurt, spinach and carrot salad with olive oil and vinegar and nuts or seeds of some sort. Dinner - meat and broccoli, green beans or cabbage, and a sweet potato about once a week. Snack - 2 squares of 85% or higher Dark chocolate. If I'm eating out I always 86 any bread and ask for broccoli instead of startch. My usual go to meal out is chipolte. Salad bowl no rice no beans no dressing, half chicken half steak. Pico red and green. Cheese, sour cream and guac. It's about 900 calories and only 18 grams of carbs. Plenty of fat and plenty of protein Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gixxus Christ! Posted January 6, 2015 Report Share Posted January 6, 2015 I eat tons of saturated fat. I limit my carbs to about 150 grams a day which is tons of veggies. I ocassionaly eat rice or oats or corn but usually feel pretty lousy after I do. My normal day consists of Breakfast - 4 strips of bacon 2 fried eggs. 1/2 an onion and a whole bell pepper fried in bacon grease or coconut oil. Lunch - 1 cup of full fat yogurt, spinach and carrot salad with olive oil and vinegar and nuts or seeds of some sort. Dinner - meat and broccoli, green beans or cabbage, and a sweet potato about once a week. Snack - 2 squares of 85% or higher Dark chocolate. If I'm eating out I always 86 any bread and ask for broccoli instead of startch. My usual go to meal out is chipolte. Salad bowl no rice no beans no dressing, half chicken half steak. Pico red and green. Cheese, sour cream and guac. It's about 900 calories and only 18 grams of carbs. Plenty of fat and plenty of proteinHow's your cholesterol? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScubaCinci Posted January 6, 2015 Report Share Posted January 6, 2015 Low carb diets are generally not bad for cholesterol levels as long as you are doing it right. I have always had high cholesterol as it runs in the family. Even in my 20's when I was super fit and had a really clean diet, my cholesterol was high. It's just like that for some people genetically. Back in 2005-6 when I lost 80 lbs on a low carb diet I was at the doctor getting my bi-annual cholesterol check and another doctor from Chicago came in to talk to me. He was studying the effects of low carb diets on cholesterol and triglycerides. My triglycerides were so low that they were nearly unmeasurable even though I was eating plenty of eggs, bacon, meat, etc. He told me that his findings across the country showed similar results along with lower cholesterol levels. He explained to me that since carbs were not being taken in at normal levels, the body had to use fats to replenish glycogen and to maintain blood sugar levels. The easiest place for the body to get this is from blood lipids so that's why the triglycerides get so low. This also affects cholesterol but to a lesser degree. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redkow97 Posted January 6, 2015 Report Share Posted January 6, 2015 (edited) don't get caught up with the numbers of what you weigh. shape is more important than mass, and health is more important than shape. I am 6' and barely 170 right now. I am the least healthy I've been in a long time... I don't eat very well. It's not hard to look at what you're eating and determine whether or not it's healthy my goals for the year are to cut down on weekday drinking, eliminate soda and fast food from my diet, and work out 2-3 days a week minimum. I'd also like to start towing the crumb-grabber around the park in the bicycle trailer i picked up a few weeks ago. Just need to find a 90's mountain bike with street tires. Edited January 6, 2015 by redkow97 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zx3vfr Posted January 6, 2015 Author Report Share Posted January 6, 2015 How's your cholesterol?I will know later this week. Blood pressure was way down though. I use to be high 140s over 90I was 125/80 yesterday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zx3vfr Posted January 6, 2015 Author Report Share Posted January 6, 2015 don't get caught up with the numbers of what you weigh. shape is more important than mass, and health is more important than shape. I am 6' and barely 170 right now. I am the least healthy I've been in a long time... my goals for the year are to cut down on weekday drinking, eliminate soda and fast food from my diet, and work out 2-3 days a week minimum. I'd also like to start towing the crumb-grabber around the park in the bicycle trailer i picked up a few weeks ago. Just need to find a 90's mountain bike with street tires.I lost about 8" off my waist And 4" off my hips 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScubaCinci Posted January 6, 2015 Report Share Posted January 6, 2015 don't get caught up with the numbers of what you weigh. shape is more important than mass, and health is more important than shape.This. Sometimes your weight doesn't budge but you can tell your clothes fit better. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gixxus Christ! Posted January 6, 2015 Report Share Posted January 6, 2015 I will know later this week. Blood pressure was way down though. I use to be high 140s over 90I was 125/80 yesterday.Seems with the extreme amount of saturated fats you're taking in your cholesterol should be through the roof. Coconut oil is 92% saturated vs like 7% for olive oil. I know if I tried your diet my dr would shit a brick at my next checkup. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zx3vfr Posted January 6, 2015 Author Report Share Posted January 6, 2015 Seems with the extreme amount of saturated fats you're taking in your cholesterol should be through the roof. Coconut oil is 92% saturated vs like 7% for olive oil. I know if I tried your diet my dr would shit a brick at my next checkup.I don't want to start an argument but alternative thinking is cholesterol goes up from oxidation, caused by smoking and stress. Oxidation most likely thought to come from excessive insulin levels from a standard diet of high carbs and burned food. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gixxus Christ! Posted January 6, 2015 Report Share Posted January 6, 2015 I would agree with you if I were not a non smoker and a diabetic. So no smoking and very little insulin. Plenty of cholesterol tho, and it went down when I cut down on pork, beef and other highly saturated foods. That is not to say there aren't other factors in cholesterol, your liver produces it and some people are genetically predisposed to high cholesterol. A guy I work with runs marathons, cross country skis and plays racket ball every morning. Doesn't smoke, very little stress in his life. Dr put him on a vegetarian diet because his cholesterol was so high, like his dads, his brothers etc... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zx3vfr Posted January 6, 2015 Author Report Share Posted January 6, 2015 Watch the movie fathead. It's on YouTube for free. 1 hour and 45 minutes. You'll be entertained with loads of good info. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Anderson Posted January 11, 2015 Report Share Posted January 11, 2015 So I did a fitness test in December and I need to lose some serious wright. I'm 5' 7" and 190lbs. It said I'm 24.2% body fat. I'm joining a gym this Saturday and plan to lose weight. I'm going to start running and and also start weightlifting. I'm excited. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rawlins87 Posted March 23, 2015 Report Share Posted March 23, 2015 -23lbs so far this year. No more 242lb class. Was thinking 220 was where I needed to be but goals have changed and going to descend to 205lbs. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScubaCinci Posted March 23, 2015 Report Share Posted March 23, 2015 I'm down 25lbs YTD...slow and steady 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DAC Posted May 1, 2015 Report Share Posted May 1, 2015 Congrats all on the work! Agreed on the scale vs proportions thing. Have pretty much stopped weighing myself and go by belt tightness, etc. Down to 206 from 235. That all happened last year. I figure 206 and a 34 inch waist should be about right for a 6 ft. frame. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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