myhondas Posted December 29, 2015 Report Share Posted December 29, 2015 Yeah, i've actually held (not fired) the S and the Pro next to each other. Both striker fired models have a better trigger than the 'standard' LC9, but for a carry firearm, I would choose it over either S model. I just don't want to risk a negligent discharge... Those usually only happen to negligent people. Most professionals prefer no safeties. Your finger should not be inside the trigger guard until you are ready to fire. I have had all three of the LC9's. I currently carry the 9S Pro and I also have the Kahr PM45 for the larger caliber. Both are loaded with Winchester Ranger-T's or Federal HST's for stopping power. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smccrory Posted December 29, 2015 Report Share Posted December 29, 2015 It's ok to want a manual safety but if you do, TRAIN TRAIN TRAIN TRAIN TRAIN on flipping that off during a draw until it becomes like breathing or else you'll lose 1-3 seconds in a fight figuring out what didn't happen. I've seen more people in defensive handgun classes flub up their simulated drills because of that than I've seen NDs (zero). If you keep a chambered pistol in a trigger guard-covering holster and exercise finger discipline, you won't ND, proven by millions of CHLs packing Glocks and such every day.The 9S/9Spro would be an excellent pick. I don't agree that the 40 shoots similarly and find the extra kick and weight to be unnecessary for a discrete carry piece, but that's just my opinion. I think if you're going to sling a 40, get a CM45 for similar capacity, recoil and weight for bigger holes. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blue03636 Posted December 29, 2015 Report Share Posted December 29, 2015 I don't notice any extra kick with the 40 Now the 45 does. Plus with steel plates it fun to watch them swing farther with the 40. 9, 40, 45 will all get the job done just pick one you can shoot accurately and fast. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redkow97 Posted December 29, 2015 Report Share Posted December 29, 2015 Perhaps the fear is all in my head. I appreciate the vote of confidence regarding the striker-fired models, and I'll consider that in the future. But like you said, train train train. I am still in the "practice practice practice" stage. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blue03636 Posted December 29, 2015 Report Share Posted December 29, 2015 You also need to try and train under stress as you may still forget the safety even with years puff practice. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smccrory Posted December 29, 2015 Report Share Posted December 29, 2015 Perhaps the fear is all in my head. I appreciate the vote of confidence regarding the striker-fired models, and I'll consider that in the future. But like you said, train train train. I am still in the "practice practice practice" stage. I'm glad you're taking it that way - it's a vote of confidence in YOUR ability to use the only real safety guns have - the human brain. But like I said, if a manual external safety rings your bell, go for it and train a lot, that's all - you'll be in good (Colt 1911) company. In either case, practice at home with thousands of draw-to-fire exercises (with the ammo put away of course!). I had the exact same concern, but once I started to carry an unloaded pistol around the house for several weeks, practicing my draws, re-holstering, etc. knowing that any mistake would only result in a silent mea culpa (which never happened), then I moved up to carrying a full mag without anything chambered and then finally full hot. For me, it was a progressive confidence builder that started with minimal risk and added just a layer at a time. Now I see my holster as my external safety, so to speak, and now none of my pistols have external levers on them to avoid flubbing up a draw in an emergency. The gun only leaves its holster when I'm preparing to shoot, unload or transition to another holster, always pointed in a safe direction of course and double-checked after unloading and before handling, even if just a few minutes have elapsed between phases and especially if it's left my sight and hands. Ever handled raw meat in the kitchen for even just a second, and your hands feel toxic until you wash them with hot water and soap? Or you avoid touching your eyes after handling hot peppers? Or your shoes smell like poop after walking through a bark park until you're sure they're clean? That's a lot like how guns feel to me until I've confirmed they are unloaded and they stay in my control that way. You intentionally create almost a neurological obsession about the gun's condition so that it sinks down into instinct. Others here probably have a far better description, but that's how I relate to it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blue03636 Posted December 29, 2015 Report Share Posted December 29, 2015 ^ I went through about the same process when i started to carry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wahoo Posted December 30, 2015 Report Share Posted December 30, 2015 The 9 mm Shield is an excellent choice for concealed carry. I picked mine up at Fin, Feather & Fur last January for $379 but they've had them on sale as low as $349 in November. Also, you can find some good prices on 9mm ammo at Luckygunner.com or bulkammo.com. Both sites ship out of Knoxville, TN. Whatever you decide upon, just make sure you practice, practice, and practice.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redkow97 Posted December 30, 2015 Report Share Posted December 30, 2015 ^ I went through about the same process when i started to carry.That's my plan as well. And I am obsessive about safety. No one ever had a ND by confirming the gun was empty too many times. I also have developed a habit of only handing people firearms with the slide locked back, or bolt open. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smccrory Posted December 30, 2015 Report Share Posted December 30, 2015 Reminds me of a game I played with my nephew last weekend while he held an unloaded M9. I moved around him while he kept the muzzle pointed away from me and in a safe direction. Got funny at one point. He did well. I told him to imagine a flesh-cutting laser always shining from the nose of the gun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pokey Posted December 30, 2015 Report Share Posted December 30, 2015 .40 is a snappy bitch, but .45 is more like a nice push which I personally find to be quite pleasant and easy to keep on target for follow up shots. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad324 Posted December 30, 2015 Report Share Posted December 30, 2015 (edited) .45? What are you a sissy? Carry The Judge or carry nothing at all Edited December 30, 2015 by Bad324 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tonik Posted December 30, 2015 Report Share Posted December 30, 2015 .40 is a snappy bitch, but .45 is more like a nice push which I personally find to be quite pleasant and easy to keep on target for follow up shots.Yep, same exact experience here. 40 is a short hard snap while the 45 is a longer strong push. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wahoo Posted March 27, 2016 Report Share Posted March 27, 2016 I recently upgraded the return springs in my LCP from stock 9# to 13#. Much better now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mango_sv Posted March 27, 2016 Report Share Posted March 27, 2016 Didn't read all the way thru, but wanted to say they recently revamped the LC9 and made it striker fired. The old LC9 was hammer fired and had a long, heavy pull. Not a real problem for me, but hard for my 5 ft, 100 lbs Fiancée to keep on target. If the LC9S is anything like the SR9C, it's gonna be a killer CCW. I carry her LC9 and SR9C as much as I carry my XD40SC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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