2talltim Posted August 19, 2016 Report Share Posted August 19, 2016 Don't know why but I'm getting a kick out of this story..... thoughts?http://ridermagazine.com/2016/08/18/harley-davidson-fined-12-million-for-epa-violations/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motocat12 Posted August 19, 2016 Report Share Posted August 19, 2016 Oh, hoping it was noise emissions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tonik Posted August 19, 2016 Report Share Posted August 19, 2016 This is bad news. Next they will hit Power Commander and the like directly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zx3vfr Posted August 19, 2016 Report Share Posted August 19, 2016 Bye to woolrich, super hips, sct etc... obamas eps is going to put a lot of people out of business. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2talltim Posted August 19, 2016 Author Report Share Posted August 19, 2016 Oh, hoping it was noise emissions.That's the thing. From what I heard this is the tuner they sell owners that want to put the loud pipes on thier bikes. You can re flash for slip ons or buy this tuner for full exhaust. My info could be off, just going off of what the HD guys I work with say. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MidgetTodd Posted August 19, 2016 Report Share Posted August 19, 2016 Dont trust what HD riders say, they've already show poor judgement by their purchase 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tonik Posted August 19, 2016 Report Share Posted August 19, 2016 9 minutes ago, 2talltim said: That's the thing. From what I heard this is the tuner they sell owners that want to put the loud pipes on thier bikes. You can re flash for slip ons or buy this tuner for full exhaust. My info could be off, just going off of what the HD guys I work with say. Yea, that is certainly why most of them do it. They want loud ass exhaust so they do that, then they need a tuner to fix the change in back pressure. But the fine was for emissions, not the noise. I would assume the hammer came down on Harley for two reasons. One, it would get a lot of press and two it was basically an OEM helping customers violate EPA standards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2talltim Posted August 19, 2016 Author Report Share Posted August 19, 2016 Hence why most performance mod parts for bikes say "for off road use only" somewhere on them. It covers their asses. The fact that HD tries to control every aspect of their products including aftermarket applications has bitten them in the ass and I find that hilarious, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
330racing Posted August 19, 2016 Report Share Posted August 19, 2016 This is the start of more action by the EPA towards the automotive and powersports aftermarket. The issue that the EPA has with the tuners is that they have user adjustability in regards to air fuel settings..which takes a vehicle out of CAA certification parameters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldschoolsdime92 Posted August 21, 2016 Report Share Posted August 21, 2016 On August 19, 2016 at 8:21 AM, Tonik said: This is bad news. Next they will hit Power Commander and the like directly. This was my initial thought as well. It very well could be a slippery slope, and this is just the start. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
330racing Posted August 22, 2016 Report Share Posted August 22, 2016 16 hours ago, oldschoolsdime92 said: This was my initial thought as well. It very well could be a slippery slope, and this is just the start. Indeed. Starting with the largest....I deal with this daily. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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