Veritas Posted April 29, 2004 Report Share Posted April 29, 2004 well, my 7 won't move currently. Not sure as to the cause yet, but it had been having a problem with getting spark and firing lately. We thought initially it was fuel injectors, ok so Im going to replace those. No problem. But now the car won't even start up. And I smell fuel so it's going SOMEWHERE (just unknown as to where about currently...) It cranks, but doesn't turn over. IT kept losing rpm and i would have to try to gas the peddle furiously to keep the car from stalling out last night before it finally just died on my way to go get some food. Anyone here have ANY IDEAS as to why it may be doing this? T.c. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest 1_slow_600 Posted April 29, 2004 Report Share Posted April 29, 2004 What did you do now Terron? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Veritas Posted April 29, 2004 Author Report Share Posted April 29, 2004 drove my car normally :| Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Berto Posted April 29, 2004 Report Share Posted April 29, 2004 call me. shouldn't this be in the TECH SECTION? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slow4now Posted April 29, 2004 Report Share Posted April 29, 2004 People we have a tech section for a reason.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Veritas Posted April 29, 2004 Author Report Share Posted April 29, 2004 berto, i don't have your phone number to call you:| Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BiG BeN Posted April 29, 2004 Report Share Posted April 29, 2004 try the fuel filter, sounds like you have pressure,but check your fuses anyway.if that doesn't work try something with pistons Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Veritas Posted April 29, 2004 Author Report Share Posted April 29, 2004 ....... im going to completely ignore that last statement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave1647545494 Posted April 29, 2004 Report Share Posted April 29, 2004 did you check for spark yet? pull a plug wire stick an old sparkplug in it and touch it too ground then turn the motor over if it doesn't spark that gives you a place to start from if it smells like fuel you most likely don't have a fuel problem unless its way rich all the time and fouled the plugs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest nevarmore Posted April 29, 2004 Report Share Posted April 29, 2004 Smells like fuel? You flooded it maybe? Fairly sure the FC's are similar to the FB's. Pull the plugs, pull the fuel pump fuse, get some rags and crank the motor. Youre going to have to spray the fuel out that way because rotaries don't unflood themselves. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BiG BeN Posted April 30, 2004 Report Share Posted April 30, 2004 Originally posted by Veritas: ....... im going to completely ignore that last statement. sorry,just a little former rotary owner sarcasm(hard to detect via internet) anyway.if it's flooded try putting your accelerator to the floor while cranking.i was told by a knowledgable rotary mechanic that this turns OFF the injectors.it always worked for me when my old 7 was flooded.also seems to happen fairly often when running for a short period of time when the engine isn't up to temp. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest jsauer052873 Posted May 8, 2004 Report Share Posted May 8, 2004 What's the mileage on the motor? Have you tried the apex seals? The OEM seals are junk. They're only good for like 60 to 80 thousand miles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest jsauer052873 Posted May 8, 2004 Report Share Posted May 8, 2004 What's the mileage on the motor? Have you tried the apex seals? The OEM seals are junk. They're only good for like 60 to 80 thousand miles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest nevarmore Posted May 9, 2004 Report Share Posted May 9, 2004 Originally posted by honfreak: What's the mileage on the motor? Have you tried the apex seals? The OEM seals are junk. They're only good for like 60 to 80 thousand miles.Really? I'm pushing 90K on my stockers. The OEM's are not junk, most of the aftermarket dealers will sell you Mazda parts in their own engines. Your information is wrong. The apex seal weakness is largely a myth based on an occasional rare case. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
COLD AIR Posted May 9, 2004 Report Share Posted May 9, 2004 Its only a myth to the ones that cant get out of the 14's Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandon Posted May 9, 2004 Report Share Posted May 9, 2004 myth indeed lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BiG BeN Posted May 9, 2004 Report Share Posted May 9, 2004 Originally posted by Rotary Jihad: Really? I'm pushing 90K on my stockers. The OEM's are not junk, most of the aftermarket dealers will sell you Mazda parts in their own engines. Your information is wrong. The apex seal weakness is largely a myth based on an occasional rare case. my apex seals lasted till 88k in my 90GTU. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doug1647545489 Posted May 9, 2004 Report Share Posted May 9, 2004 Originally posted by Rotary Jihad: Really? I'm pushing 90K on my stockers. The OEM's are not junk, most of the aftermarket dealers will sell you Mazda parts in their own engines. Your information is wrong. The apex seal weakness is largely a myth based on an occasional rare case.its not a myth. Especially on a turbo. I thnk almost every local fd I can think have doesn't have the original motor in in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supldys Posted May 9, 2004 Report Share Posted May 9, 2004 definitely sounds like spark, pull the plugs out and clean em. Check and see if they're getting power. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devils Advocate Posted May 9, 2004 Report Share Posted May 9, 2004 Originally posted by Doug: its not a myth. Especially on a turbo. I thnk almost every local fd I can think have doesn't have the original motor in in.How many of them are stock? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doug1647545489 Posted May 9, 2004 Report Share Posted May 9, 2004 Originally posted by fooschnicken: How many of them are stock?who said they had to be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devils Advocate Posted May 9, 2004 Report Share Posted May 9, 2004 Originally posted by Doug: who said they had to be.You and I both. Modifying ANY engine shortens it's life. The apex seals on the one I owned lasted until 125k, stock. There are many first gen's that have over 175k on the stock first motor. Almost every 3rd gen in town is at least moderately modified. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest nevarmore Posted May 10, 2004 Report Share Posted May 10, 2004 Piston rings = apex seals. For every engine with blown apex seals there is a boinger equivalent with similar mods (juice, boost, overbore/porting, and bad assembly and tolerances) that has had a ring failure. [ 10. May 2004, 11:07 AM: Message edited by: Rotary Jihad ] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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