Crash1647545504 Posted November 28, 2004 Report Share Posted November 28, 2004 Ok so im looking to get a new car in the spring and im keeping my options wide open. One thing iv been pondering on is a 2Dr civic stock exterior, and an SOHC Vtec motor, I can get forged rods and pistons for next to nothing. The plan is a 150wet shot (NX or NOS) on forged rods and pistons, can I go without a forged crank? I know on the Summit all i had to do was pull the head and oilpan and I could change out the rods and pistons without pulling the motor. Can I do that on this car? Also am I going to be runing into trouble Tranny wise with a manual tranny? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BiG BeN Posted November 28, 2004 Report Share Posted November 28, 2004 does any car NOT have a forged crank? i think you'll have clutch problems before tranny problems. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rl Posted November 28, 2004 Report Share Posted November 28, 2004 Originally posted by BiG BeN: does any car NOT have a forged crank? i think you'll have clutch problems before tranny problems. Lots of cars come with cast cranks stock... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BiG BeN Posted November 28, 2004 Report Share Posted November 28, 2004 Originally posted by rl: Lots of cars come with cast cranks stock... wow, i'de have never thought that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SPLN SUX Posted November 28, 2004 Report Share Posted November 28, 2004 yea my Z24 is a cast crank... and as far as i know, im the only person to ever break one smile.gif Go me graemlins/thumb.gif Theres guys making a hair over 400whp on cryo treated cast cranks so they arent like tooth picks. One of the strongest stock cranks you can get actully. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crash1647545504 Posted November 29, 2004 Author Report Share Posted November 29, 2004 Clutch and pump are a given, but do you think a 190 would work fine... I have one in the garage right now. Does anyone have a recomendation for an Axle? I think im going this rout. Its more in my budget than an SRT-4 and seems like a fun little project. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BiG BeN Posted November 29, 2004 Report Share Posted November 29, 2004 i think you're definitly gonna break stuff, but it does sound like fun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crash1647545504 Posted November 29, 2004 Author Report Share Posted November 29, 2004 Yea but who dosnt break stuff these days making a small motor make over 250hp these days.... i think if i get the right parts it will be not so bad, but no one will knwo till somone dose it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
recklessOP Posted November 29, 2004 Report Share Posted November 29, 2004 i thought all hondas had forged cranks. maybe it's another company. i don't see a cast crank being a problem unless you're turning some decent rpm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crash1647545504 Posted November 30, 2004 Author Report Share Posted November 30, 2004 Ill go with NX i like how there Jets are rated at the wheels as aposed to NOS rated at the crank Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SPLN SUX Posted November 30, 2004 Report Share Posted November 30, 2004 BOTTOM LINE: IF YOU'RE NOT BREAKING PARTS, YOU'RE NOT MAKING ENOUGH POWER! graemlins/nod.gifgraemlins/nod.gifgraemlins/nod.gif Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest doggunracing Posted November 30, 2004 Report Share Posted November 30, 2004 Eh, I'd go with a turbo kit. Always on > couple of spurts. Plus, you could spray the turboed setup. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjeosu27 Posted November 30, 2004 Report Share Posted November 30, 2004 Yeah, I have heard Honda's DO NOT respond well to spray. I think Chris (RedLudeSH on here) was spraying his prelude, and on a 55 shot picked up like 3 mph and actually turned a slower e.t., could just be driver error though, who knows. Course, I know how spray is. So much fun, especially when people dont expect it. Guess I helped you with nothing, good luck! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P_t0wn Posted November 30, 2004 Report Share Posted November 30, 2004 I'm selling my kit. I'm my block is built with rods and pistons and can see around 16lbs easy tuned with hondata that is. My car held even with Rico when i was running the stock setting of 5.5psi, at 12lbs which I run most of the time, I'd pretty quick for a honda. As for spray, the only reason that I'd spray my honda would be if i had a turbo large enough to need spray to get it spooled. You won't need a new clutch enless you make more than 180whp, I love my ACT xtss. the problem with greddy kits is they run out of eff around 12-14psi from what i've heard, the apexi kit that i run has been taken up to 18-20psi and seen numbers in the 300s. I can sell you my basic kit with FMIC, Turbo, manifold, downpipe, BOV and oil lines for 1600, I've got extras such as injectos, gauges, a boost controller, and other odds and ends. If you want more details, send me a pm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crash1647545504 Posted November 30, 2004 Author Report Share Posted November 30, 2004 i dont want to turbo. tha ks for the offer tho Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
still2hi Posted December 2, 2004 Report Share Posted December 2, 2004 your going to a honda? i guess you wont have all the dsm problems hows the beretta doing by the way? to answer your question: can you put the pistions and rods w/ the engine in the car. on this car you can, but i would recommend you pulling it out. reason being is that you are going to have to change your clutch and halfshafts and thats half the work on civics. we pulled my buddy's motor out of his civic in 4 hours with 2 people. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crash1647545504 Posted December 2, 2004 Author Report Share Posted December 2, 2004 berretea doing good, just small problems here and there no big deal. Yea im going honda for the sole reason to see how much nitrous i can cram down it. and this is if i dont move to colorado by summer. thanks foir the tip on the motor Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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