tandm Posted June 8, 2004 Report Share Posted June 8, 2004 What’s new for 2005 LS2 6.0L engine replaces LS1 400 horsepower (295 kw) 395 lb.-ft. of torque (546 Nm) Available hood with twin air scoops Revised rear fascia incorporating outlets for new split dual exhaust system Polished exhaust outlet tips Larger brake rotors and calipers Red-painted calipers with GTO logo on front caliper Driver foot rest Two new colors: blue and grey Model Lineup Engine Transmissions 6.0L V-8 6-spd man Can't wait for the official pictures of the reworked Goat graemlins/thumb.gif Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SquirrelyNutsDSP Posted June 8, 2004 Report Share Posted June 8, 2004 Now I'm impressed, that will be cool. I think they might get it right this time, post pics if you find 'em! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wease Posted June 8, 2004 Report Share Posted June 8, 2004 Very cool. Sucks for the guys who currently have or will have the LS1 version... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trouble Maker Posted June 8, 2004 Report Share Posted June 8, 2004 Originally posted by Wease: Very cool. Sucks for the guys who currently have or will have the LS1 version... We were talking about this the other day and it could make them more of a collector’s item over time. If not at least considered rare. It will probably be considered the oddball after sometime. I do see how most people buying this car wanted a performance car and this one sounds like it will perform a good bit better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
black00ws6 Posted June 8, 2004 Report Share Posted June 8, 2004 Hopefully it isn't as ugly as shit like the current one... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skinner Posted June 8, 2004 Report Share Posted June 8, 2004 Originally posted by Blowzilla: Hopefully it isn't as ugly as shit like the current one...meh... opinions are like assholes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razorback Posted June 8, 2004 Report Share Posted June 8, 2004 Maybe GM realized their mistake and will start producing a new GTO next year instead of a RWD V8 Grand Prix. One can only hope. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodRed Posted June 8, 2004 Report Share Posted June 8, 2004 That sounds just like the GTO Autocross edition you can get now. Same specs. Maybe not the same engine, but I know it produced 400 hp. I think the Autocross one is a limited production this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest monkey4sale321 Posted June 8, 2004 Report Share Posted June 8, 2004 I know this isnt a picture but heres a video with the new GTO. It's called Pontiac Puts On A Mini-Stunt Show. Just click on the little reel and yer set http://www.f-bodyhideout.com/videos.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tandm Posted June 8, 2004 Author Report Share Posted June 8, 2004 Originally posted by punkrocker3_00: That sounds just like the GTO Autocross edition you can get now. Same specs. Maybe not the same engine, but I know it produced 400 hp. I think the Autocross one is a limited production this year. Please do not speak when you don't know what you're talking about. The Autrocross Edition you're referring to was a concept car at SEMA, never meant for production. It also had an LS6 engine, not the LS2. They may share some styling cues, but it's going to be a different car. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BLACKBIRD99 Posted June 8, 2004 Report Share Posted June 8, 2004 Originally posted by punkrocker3_00: That sounds just like the GTO Autocross edition you can get now. Same specs. Maybe not the same engine, but I know it produced 400 hp. I think the Autocross one is a limited production this year.I don't think GM would make a version of a car dedicated to a relatively small form of racing such as autocrossing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rally Red Evo Posted June 8, 2004 Report Share Posted June 8, 2004 And now what will the price be? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quicksand Jesus Posted June 8, 2004 Report Share Posted June 8, 2004 Originally posted by Razorback: Maybe GM realized their mistake and will start producing a new GTO next year instead of a RWD V8 Grand Prix. One can only hope. And I thought a GTO WAS a RWD Grand Prix! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coty061885 Posted June 8, 2004 Report Share Posted June 8, 2004 I saw a 'making of' on the History channel for that video. It was pretty cool, they described all the new Pontiac vehicles for the new year. Did anyone see "The Last Ride?" It was on USA network I think. All I know is after they painted the GTO red and added the new parts, it looked pretty badass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OGRE Posted June 8, 2004 Report Share Posted June 8, 2004 Originally posted by Jumpin' Jack Flash: And I thought a GTO WAS a RWD Grand Prix! I think of it as a glorified tempest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nitrousbird Posted June 8, 2004 Report Share Posted June 8, 2004 Originally posted by Blowzilla: Hopefully it isn't as ugly as shit like the current one...I'm sure it will still look better than the Mustang. smile.gif Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mallard Posted June 8, 2004 Report Share Posted June 8, 2004 Originally posted by BLACKBIRD99: I don't think GM would make a version of a car dedicated to a relatively small form of racing such as autocrossing. Autocrossing is a lot bigger then you think. Let's not get into another arguement over who think the GTO looks too much like a Grand Prix and weather that's a good thing or not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BLACKBIRD99 Posted June 8, 2004 Report Share Posted June 8, 2004 Originally posted by Mallard: Autocrossing is a lot bigger then you think. Let's not get into another arguement over who think the GTO looks too much like a Grand Prix and weather that's a good thing or not.What I was comparing it to is when they had the NHRA edition T/A. If anything, they would do something like that or maybe an SCCA GTO but that's highly unlikely. I wasn't knocking autoxing by any means. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BLACKBIRD99 Posted June 8, 2004 Report Share Posted June 8, 2004 Originally posted by Razorback: Maybe GM realized their mistake and will start producing a new GTO next year instead of a RWD V8 Grand Prix. One can only hope.I've read that for 06, the GPs, Montes and Impalas are going RWD. Then I heard a rumor that a couple years after that they'll be getting V8s. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nitrousbird Posted June 8, 2004 Report Share Posted June 8, 2004 Originally posted by Mallard: [QBAutocrossing is a lot bigger then you think.[/QB]Not really, especially when it comes to marketing something. SCCA, perhaps (as that would include autocrossing among other types of racing), Auto-X.....nope. Though it is definately fun and challenging, you do have to remember auto-x is racing around some cones in a parking lot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razorback Posted June 8, 2004 Report Share Posted June 8, 2004 Originally posted by Jumpin' Jack Flash: And I thought a GTO WAS a RWD Grand Prix! Maybe I can convince my dad to get one if they look nice. He used to have a '68 4-speed and I know he'd probably love to get another one if the styling was good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mowgli1647545497 Posted June 8, 2004 Report Share Posted June 8, 2004 Originally posted by Nitrousbird: I'm sure it will still look better than the Mustang. smile.gif You and 4 other people. The Mustang will continue to outsell the shit out of anything else out there. Back to the new goat. Sweet news with the LS2. As for whoever it was that was speculating on the lower power earlier models becoming more rare/collectible because of it... not likely. All the old muscle cars of a lower power trim consistently collected lower dollar values than their higher power versions, regardless of their rarity. For example I can't think of any 350 or 396 Chevelles that outpriced a 454, and there were some odd combos in the 350s... etc. I doubt the GTO will be any different come 2025. Anyhow, I'm itching to see one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mensan Posted June 9, 2004 Report Share Posted June 9, 2004 Originally posted by Mowgli: As for whoever it was that was speculating on the lower power earlier models becoming more rare/collectible because of it... not likely. All the old muscle cars of a lower power trim consistently collected lower dollar values than their higher power versions, regardless of their rarity. For example I can't think of any 350 or 396 Chevelles that outpriced a 454, and there were some odd combos in the 350s... etc. I doubt the GTO will be any different come 2025. Anyhow, I'm itching to see one. Wait, you mean like the 53 Corvettes with the inline 6 cylinders? Not comparing the GTO to the 53 Corvette, just proving a point. Believe what you like, the 04 GTO will be a sought after item, and it will retain its value. You can quote me on that one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smokinHawk1647545499 Posted June 9, 2004 Report Share Posted June 9, 2004 7.0+ > 6.0 so intill then ls1 > ls2 what is the bore size of the ls2? sill wonder how much is swappable with the ls1 history has shown though that they wait a year to relese the vettes engine into the "lesser model" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest preluderacer Posted June 9, 2004 Report Share Posted June 9, 2004 personally i think the new gto is a relativly nice car. Yeah, it may not be as nice as the old ones, but it would still be nice to have one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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