Guest Hamtaro Posted February 23, 2005 Report Share Posted February 23, 2005 that he's gonna be dead soon, what a worthless mother fv(ker. I love how people like this think gay marriage and abortion are the worst things plaguing the world these days... http://www.cnn.com/2005/WORLD/europe/02/23/pope.book.reut/index.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandon Posted February 23, 2005 Report Share Posted February 23, 2005 Religon is evil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Hamtaro Posted February 23, 2005 Report Share Posted February 23, 2005 for once i agree with you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kohones Posted February 23, 2005 Report Share Posted February 23, 2005 I'm not for gays anything, & I'm no religious bible waver either. People should do THEIR thing privately & leave us alone that could care less! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest GSRchick714 Posted February 23, 2005 Report Share Posted February 23, 2005 I think anyone should be able to do whatever they want to do but don't go around parading your sexual preference...straight people don't do it, so why do gay people have to? In "Memory and Identity," the Pope also calls abortion a "legal extermination" comparable to attempts to wipe out Jews and other groups in the 20th century. Not that I'm for (or against) abortion in certain situations, BUT, how is it comparable to the holocaust and such?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Hamtaro Posted February 23, 2005 Report Share Posted February 23, 2005 Originally posted by GSRchick714: I think anyone should be able to do whatever they want to do but don't go around parading your sexual preference...straight people don't do it, so why do gay people have to? Please do the world a favor and shut the fuck up. I personally dont care for flamboyantly gay people either, but if you are labeling their fight to get equal rights "parading their sexual preference" you seriously are a dumbass. I bet when blacks were pushing for equal rights a few decades ago, they were parading too, right? Not that I'm for (or against) abortion in certain situations, BUT, how is it comparable to the holocaust and such?? i agree with you here. there is a difference between a clotheshanger and a gas chamber..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supldys Posted February 23, 2005 Report Share Posted February 23, 2005 wait wait wait, i can understand having your own views, but did you just say you want to see the pope die? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pg Posted February 23, 2005 Report Share Posted February 23, 2005 I'm in a Western Civilization class this quarter and the entire class we have been learning about religion, which I have no idea about seeing as how I'm not religious, I'm not atheist though, but anyway most of the horrible things that have happened to people, groups, genders other religions have been caused by religion. If people are so concerned with getting to heaven, which were the catholics of the middle ages, why do they do such horrible things to people of different beliefs, wouldn't that be something that is not highly looked upon? This class has definately brought to my attention the corruptness of religion which I was not really that aware about. Whats the obsession with religion, I think, believe in God, Jesus and the Devil and try to live a good life and stop concerning yourself with what other people believe and what they want to do, its not anyone elses business than theirs and how does it hurt anyone if gays get married or if someone gets an abortion, they have their reasons. I deeply dislike people who care about others beliefs, get over yourself and stop trying to get others to believe what you believe, its annoying. Sorry for the rant it just really gets to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRocket1647545505 Posted February 23, 2005 Report Share Posted February 23, 2005 Originally posted by pgsrt-4: I'm in a Western Civilization class this quarter and the entire class we have been learning about religion, which I have no idea about seeing as how I'm not religious, I'm not atheist though, but anyway most of the horrible things that have happened to people, groups, genders other religions have been caused by religion. If people are so concerned with getting to heaven, which were the catholics of the middle ages, why do they do such horrible things to people of different beliefs, wouldn't that be something that is not highly looked upon? This class has definately brought to my attention the corruptness of religion which I was not really that aware about. Whats the obsession with religion, I think, believe in God, Jesus and the Devil and try to live a good life and stop concerning yourself with what other people believe and what they want to do, its not anyone elses business than theirs and how does it hurt anyone if gays get married or if someone gets an abortion, they have their reasons. I deeply dislike people who care about others beliefs, get over yourself and stop trying to get others to believe what you believe, its annoying. Sorry for the rant it just really gets to me.FINALLY! someone agrees with me. IMO, if it's your belief...keep it to yourself...because I really don't give shit what your beliefs are. I pretty much don't like religions in general. They seem to make people do some pretty stupid things, 'all in the name of their God'...BS if you ask me. But no one's asking me, so I'm gonna shut up now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeathSandwich Posted February 23, 2005 Report Share Posted February 23, 2005 meh.... the more people that die.. the more room there will be for those that live... i'm for all kinds of death.. euthanasia, death sentence, diseases, etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest GSRchick714 Posted February 23, 2005 Report Share Posted February 23, 2005 Wow, this could get intense graemlins/popcorn.gif Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Hamtaro Posted February 23, 2005 Report Share Posted February 23, 2005 Originally posted by Powered By Geo: wait wait wait, i can understand having your own views, but did you just say you want to see the pope die? I didnt say I WANTED him to die, but im not going to shed a tear when he dies in the near future. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Karacho1647545492 Posted February 23, 2005 Report Share Posted February 23, 2005 Religion is made for the single purpose of giving hope and direction to those who have none in their life. While I personally do not believe in any particular religion, I do believe that the basis for the teachings of most religions are worth trying to live by. For instance, the Buddhist teachings instruct people to void themselves of earthly possessions. While I'm not about to give up every luxury I have, I do try to limit my material possessions. Christianity teaches the ways in which to be a good person, most of which are very basic and sensical. I'm sure I can stand not to covet my neighbors wife, not murder, and not steal. Even the Pagans believe that nature should be worshipped, and that people live in harmony with earth. While I'm not going to chain myself to any trees, I'm not going to set any forest fires either. The point is that religion's roots are pure. Without religion, I also many people who are the most faithful now would be running rampant on the streets. If there was no reason to be a good person or enticement of heaven or threat of hell, many people would just ignore common courtesy and do as they please. While I disagree with the Pope's stand on abortion and gay marriage, I certainly can understand why he makes such proclaimations and why billions of people worldwide agree with him. On a related note, who saw that Korn's guitarist has decided God is more important than Korn and quit the band? LMFAO! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest busteryhyman Posted February 23, 2005 Report Share Posted February 23, 2005 woah. comparing abortion to the Holocauset. c'mon. I'm very firm on my pro-life issues, but that's two completely different things there. and dammit, he's caught on to the hideous evil plans that i have been plotting against the world to get married. oh well, guess i'll try again in a few years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TurboII7 Posted February 23, 2005 Report Share Posted February 23, 2005 That is a little bit to radical of a statement for a religious leader to be making saying that gay mariage might be a new ideology of evil, I really can't see any way that could be considered evil as it is not harmful to anyone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orion Posted February 23, 2005 Report Share Posted February 23, 2005 ok, let me try and leave my faith COMPLETELY out of this post... abortion has claimed more lives than the holocaust did. it is perpetuated against a demographic that is TOTALLY defenseless against it. and its legal. graemlins/nonono.gif i think the comparison is not only fair and accurate, it may be that abortion is WORSE than the holocaust. for the jewish that try and claim the comparison is "unacceptable", i have one thing to say. you had a chance. you had an opportunity to resist, to survive. to fight and overcome. what unborn child has that opportunity? none. anyways, thats all im going to say on the situation. i respect the others in this threads views, though they may be opposing. as far as faith being a personal, private matter; no one who has any real faith could possibly keep it personal and private. it affects your daily life, and everything that you are. it becomes publice simply by you coming into contact with someone who has any. myself, personally, i try not to "beat people over the head with the bible", but ask anyone that knows me, my faith is one of the things that makes me who i am. if you hang out with me for a bit, you will get a taste of that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orion Posted February 23, 2005 Report Share Posted February 23, 2005 ok, let me try and leave my faith COMPLETELY out of this post... ok, so i guess that didnt work. see what i mean? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smokin5s Posted February 23, 2005 Report Share Posted February 23, 2005 Religion is a means of control... that is all Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
copperhead Posted February 23, 2005 Report Share Posted February 23, 2005 http://flathat.woodstream.net/ColumbusRacing/CopperHead/pro-choice2.jpg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodRed Posted February 23, 2005 Report Share Posted February 23, 2005 Originally posted by Orion: ok, let me try and leave my faith COMPLETELY out of this post... abortion has claimed more lives than the holocaust did. it is perpetuated against a demographic that is TOTALLY defenseless against it. and its legal. graemlins/nonono.gif i think the comparison is not only fair and accurate, it may be that abortion is WORSE than the holocaust. for the jewish that try and claim the comparison is "unacceptable", i have one thing to say. you had a chance. you had an opportunity to resist, to survive. to fight and overcome. what unborn child has that opportunity? none. anyways, thats all im going to say on the situation. i respect the others in this threads views, though they may be opposing. as far as faith being a personal, private matter; no one who has any real faith could possibly keep it personal and private. it affects your daily life, and everything that you are. it becomes publice simply by you coming into contact with someone who has any. myself, personally, i try not to "beat people over the head with the bible", but ask anyone that knows me, my faith is one of the things that makes me who i am. if you hang out with me for a bit, you will get a taste of that. I agree with you 100% Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRocket1647545505 Posted February 23, 2005 Report Share Posted February 23, 2005 Just curious...but why was the guy banned? What'd he say that was so bad? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Science Abuse Posted February 23, 2005 Report Share Posted February 23, 2005 Originally posted by Hamtaro: I didnt say I WANTED him to die, but im not going to shed a tear when he dies in the near future.I found a pic of our own Hamtaro: http://www.lacorchea.com/e011/s006/noticias/Sinead_OConnor/20030521/sinead_oconnor_2.jpg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Posted February 23, 2005 Report Share Posted February 23, 2005 Originally posted by Shitaro: Religion is a means of control... that is allno it isn't religion is just like communism, it works in theory but mankind fucks it up, and everyone always reports and remembers the bad parts of any religions history, but they tend to forget the immeasurable positive impact it has had on anything around it, but go ahead and let a few bad apples ruin the whole bunch and dj is right about religion not being able to be a private thing, same thing as with seperation of church and state, it isn't supposed to keep religion out of politics, it is supposed to keep the gov from sponsoring a church for a national religion, but you cannot keep religion out of the way our politicians decide on issues and who we vote for because of their morals Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smokin5s Posted February 23, 2005 Report Share Posted February 23, 2005 Originally posted by Car Enthusiast: no it isn't religion is just like communism, it works in theory but mankind fucks it up, and everyone always reports and remembers the bad parts of any religions history, but they tend to forget the immeasurable positive impact it has had on anything around it, but go ahead and let a few bad apples ruin the whole bunch and dj is right about religion not being able to be a private thing, same thing as with seperation of church and state, it isn't supposed to keep religion out of politics, it is supposed to keep the gov from sponsoring a church for a national religion, but you cannot keep religion out of the way our politicians decide on issues and who we vote for because of their moralsyou have your beliefs and I have mine... we'll leave it at that... I won't discuss religion anymore because with a mass of 5k members, anything said is bound to offend someone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Karacho1647545492 Posted February 23, 2005 Report Share Posted February 23, 2005 Originally posted by Shitaro: you have your beliefs and I have mine... we'll leave it at that... I won't discuss religion anymore because with a mass of 5k members, anything said is bound to offend someone.good idea, not because I think you're wrong, but because you're completely right. its just opening a can of worms. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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