copperhead Posted January 23, 2007 Report Share Posted January 23, 2007 Out of all of the shitbags that are trying to get the nomination on both sides, I would still much rather have the chance to vote for this guy: http://www.walken2008.com/ BTW, for those talking up Guiliani, if you are a conservative you don't want him, he's only a republican because he is a moderate from New York. There's a lot of viewpoints that he takes the liberal side. As for Hitlery, too much of America hates her, and even if she were a better person, I still don't see America being ready to elect a woman, I think Obama has a far better chance, even though racism towards his heritage, and the fact that his middle name is HUSSEIN will still kill him off. If the dems nominate either of them, and the republicans haven't totally fucked up, the dems will lose. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craig71188 Posted January 23, 2007 Report Share Posted January 23, 2007 Hillary - Commie +1 Obama - if he crosses Hillary, he better stay out of Ft. Marcy park! Newt Gingrich in '08!!! http://www.draftnewt.org/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rally Pat Posted January 23, 2007 Report Share Posted January 23, 2007 Forget Christopher Walken, MacGyver is where it is at. http://www.specialfarm.net/macgyver2008.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thorne Posted January 23, 2007 Report Share Posted January 23, 2007 Hillary > Bush Now, I want Hillary to win for only 1 reason. To fuck with the old mans club, The First women president is goingt o piss so many people off. Remind me of the skit (Chapple or Rock) Ohh I could be the first black president .. But I would have Vice president Sanchez Kill me and the boarders open up bitches! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thorne Posted January 23, 2007 Report Share Posted January 23, 2007 Liberterian party!!!!! The Pirate party would be nice to. BTW Guilani WAS A FUCKING SHITTY MAYOR His drug shit never worked. Everything he did was a considered a bad mayor up until 9/11 Track Records man Track Records. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Posted January 23, 2007 Report Share Posted January 23, 2007 Being a first time presidential voter in this upcoming election, no matter what the issues, I can tell you right now I will NOT vote for Hillary Clinton. Just something bothers me there. I don't care if she's a woman. It'll be interesting to see who is going to run. I think Guiliani, Clinton, Obama and McCain are the frontrunners right now. Found this too http://www.pollingreport.com/2008.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lustalbert Posted January 23, 2007 Report Share Posted January 23, 2007 Something about Walken's photo says "Fuck with us and you will be sleeping with the fishies tonight." I like it. http://www.walken2008.com/images/home_photo.jpg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Posted January 23, 2007 Report Share Posted January 23, 2007 He should run. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest powers Posted January 23, 2007 Report Share Posted January 23, 2007 First I cannot see her winning a primary. The democratic party would be crazy to assume that they can get in office with her as their candidate. The democratic party wants in the white house, they are going to back the candiate they feel they have their best chances with and Hillary is not it. My wife asked me about this yesterday and I said let's not even talk about it because it will never happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
V8 Beast Posted January 23, 2007 Report Share Posted January 23, 2007 I'm voting for Ross Perot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Zoomtard Posted January 23, 2007 Report Share Posted January 23, 2007 She's pretty much the last person we need running this country. Ummmm, yeah....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HAOLE Posted January 23, 2007 Report Share Posted January 23, 2007 The Clinton Death list....will we get more of the same? The following is a partial list of deaths of persons connected to President Clinton during his tenure as Governor of Arkansas and/or while President of the United States and thereafter. Read the list and judge for yourself. BARBARA OLSON - Author of "Hell to Pay" - a book critical of Hillary Clinton, killed in the Pentagon bombing. DARLENE NOVINGER - Former FBI operative, January 23rd, 2003. Novinger was known to hold sensitive information on the Clinton and Bush I administration's drug operations. Her husband murdered March 1987 when she went public with initial reports. Her father died July 8, 1993 four hours after Darlene was a guest on the Tom Valentine show. Suffered retaliation after reporting discussions by government protected drug smuggler who described contacts with Vice President George Bush and his son, Jeb Bush. DAN MULLONEY, a television news photographer who shot footage of the 1993 Branch Davidian siege. CHARLES RUFF - White House Counsel and Clinton defense attorney during the Monica Lewinsky scandal and the impeachment trial. Of apparent natural causes. JAMES MCDOUGAL - Clinton's convicted Whitewater partner died of an apparent heart attack, while in solitary confinement. McDougal was a key witness in Kenneth Starr's investigation. MARY MAHONEY - A former White House intern was murdered July 6, 1997 at a Starbucks Coffee Shop in Georgetown. The murder happened during the pre-trial publicity surrounding the Paula Jones lawsuit days after Newsweek's Mike Isakoff dropped hints that a former White House staffer was about to go public with her story of sexual harassment in the White House. VINCENT FOSTER - Former White House counselor, and former colleague of Hillary Clinton at Little Rock's Rose law firm. Foster was found dead July 20, 1993 of a gunshot to the head ruled a suicide. Rumours were that Foster and Hillary had an affair. RON BROWN - Secretary of Commerce and former DNC Chairman. Reported to have died by impact in a plane crash. A pathologist close to the investigation reported to the Bob Grant Radio Show a hole in top of Brown's skull resembling a gunshot wound. At the time of his death Brown was being investigated, and spoke publicly of his willingness to cut a deal with prosecutors. C. VICTOR RAISER II - Former National finance Co-Chairman, Clinton for President Campaign and son MONTGOMERY RAISER died in a private plane crash in Alaska, July 30th,1992. Raiser was described as a major player in the Clinton organization by Dee Dee Meyers. JEREMY "MIKE" BOORDA, President Clinton's former Chief of Naval Operations allegedly committed suicide by shooting himself in the chest with a .38 caliber pistol on his front lawn in May 1996. The unauthorized wearing of valor pins was the alleged reasoning behind the suicide. By 1998 this reasoning was proved false after the Navy issued a report that said Boorda earned the right to wear the pins afterall. PAUL TULLEY - Democrat National Committee Political Director found dead in a hotel room in Little Rock, Arkansas September 24, 1992, Described by Clinton as a "Dear friend and trusted advisor". ED WILLEY - Clinton fund raiser-found dead November 30, 1993 deep in the woods in Virginia of a gunshot wound to the head. Ruled a suicide, Willey died on the same day his wife Kathleen Willey claimed that Bill Clinton groped her in the oval office in the White House. Ed Willey was involved in several Clinton fund raising events. JERRY PARKS - Head of Clinton's gubernatorial security team in Little Rock. Gunned down in his car at a deserted intersection outside Little Rock. Parks' son said his father was building a dossier on Clinton. He allegedly threatened to reveal this information. After he died the files were mysteriously removed from his house JAMES BUNCH - Died from a gunshot wound. Reported to have a black book of people containing names of influential people who visited prostitutes in Texas and Arkansas. JAMES WILSON - Was found dead by hanging May 18, 1993. Was reported to have ties to Whitewater. KATHY FERGUSON - Ex-wife of Arkansas Trooper Danny Ferguson died in May,1994 was found dead in her living room with a gunshot wound to her head. It was ruled a suicide even though there were several packed suitcases, as if she was going somewhere. Danny Ferguson was a co-defendant along with Bill Clinton in the Paula Corbin Jones lawsuit. She was reported a possible corroborating witness for Paula Jones case. BILL SHELTON - Arkansas state Trooper and Fiancee of Kathy Ferguson.Critical of the suicide ruling of his fiancee, he was found dead in June, 1994 of a gunshot wound also ruled a suicide at the grave site of his fiancee. GANDY BAUGH - Attorney for Clinton friend Dan Lassater died by falling out a window of a tall building January, 1991. His client was a convicted drug distributor. FLORENCE MARTIN - Accountant subcontractor for the CIA related to the Barry Seal Mena Airport drug smuggling case. Dead of three gunshot wounds. SUZANNE COLEMAN - Reportedly had an affair with Clinton when he was Arkansas Attorney General. Died of a gunshot wound to back of head, ruled a suicide, was pregnant at the time her death. PAULA GROBER - Clinton's speech interpreter for the deaf from 1978 until her death December 9, 1992. She died in a one car accident. DANNY CASOLARO - Investigative reporter, investigating Mena airport and Arkansas Development Finance Authority. Found dead with slit his wrists in the middle of his investigation. PAUL WILCHER - Attorney investigating corruption at Mena Airport with Casolaro and the 1980 "October Surprise" was found dead on a toilet June 22, 1993 in his Washington DC Apartment. Had delivered report to Janet Reno 3 weeks before his death. JON PARNELL WALKER - Whitewater Investigator for Resolution Trust Corporation. Fell to his death from his Arlington, Virginia apartment balcony August 15, 1993. Was investigating Morgan Guarantee scandal. BARBARA WISE - Commerce Department Staffer, worked closely with Ron Brown and John Huang. Cause of death unknown. Died November 29, 1996. Her bruised nude body was found locked in her office at the Department of Commerce. CHARLES MEISSNER - Assistant Secretary of Commerce who gave John Huang special security clearance, died shortly thereafter in a small plane crash. DR.STANLEY HEARD - Chair National Chiropractic Heath Care Advisory committee died with his attorney. STEVE DICKSON - Died in a small plane crash. Heard, in addition to serving on Clinton's advisory council personally treated Clinton's mother, stepfather and brother. BARRY SEAL - Drug running pilot out of Mena, Arkansas. Death was no accident. JOHNNY LAWHORN Jr. - Mechanic, found a check made out to Clinton in the trunk of a car left in his repair shop. Died when his car hit a utility pole. STANLEY MUGGINS - Suicide. Investigated Madison Guarantee. His report was never released. HERSHELL FRIDAY - Attorney and Clinton fund raiser died March 1, 1994 when his plane exploded. KEVIN IVES and DON HENRY - Known as "The boys on the track" case. Reports say the boys may have stumbled upon the Mena Arkansas Airport Drug operation. This controversial case where initial report of death was due to falling asleep on railroad track. Later reports claim the two had been slain before being placed on the tracks. Many people linked to the case died (see below) before their testimony could come before a Grand Jury. THE FOLLOWING SIX PERSONS HAD INFORMATION ON THE IVES/HENRY CASE: KEITH CONEY - Died when his motorcycle slammed into the back of a truck in July, 1988. KEITH McMASKLE - Died, stabbed 113 times, November 1988. GREGORY COLLINS - Died from a gunshot wound, January 1989. JEFF RHODES - He was shot, mutilated and found burned in a trash dump in April 1989. JAMES MILAN. Found decapitated-Coroner ruled death due to natural causes. JORDAN KETTLESON - Was found shot to death in the front seat of his pickup truck in June 1990. RICHARD WINTERS - Winters was a suspect in the Ives/Henry deaths. Was killed in set-up robbery in July 1989. THE FOLLOWING FORMER CLINTON BODYGUARDS ARE DEAD: - MAJOR WILLIAM S. BARKLEY JR. - CAPTAIN SCOTT J.REYNOLDS - SGT. BRIAN HANEY - SGT. TIM SABEL - MAJOR GENERAL WILLIAM ROBERTSON - COL. WILLIAM DENSBERGER - COL. ROBERT KELLY - SPEC. GARY RHODES - STEVE WILLIS - ROBERT WILLIAMS - CONWAY LeBLEU - TODD McKEEHAN And finally, BUDDY, the Presidential Dog, killed when he was struck by a car after having escaped his kennel. Before someone says it, yes 3000+ military members have died under president Bush... 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Guest Zoomtard Posted January 23, 2007 Report Share Posted January 23, 2007 The Clinton Death list....will we get more of the same? The following is a partial list of deaths of persons connected to President Clinton during his tenure as Governor of Arkansas and/or while President of the United States and thereafter. Read the list and judge for yourself. BARBARA OLSON - Author of "Hell to Pay" - a book critical of Hillary Clinton, killed in the Pentagon bombing. DARLENE NOVINGER - Former FBI operative, January 23rd, 2003. Novinger was known to hold sensitive information on the Clinton and Bush I administration's drug operations. Her husband murdered March 1987 when she went public with initial reports. Her father died July 8, 1993 four hours after Darlene was a guest on the Tom Valentine show. Suffered retaliation after reporting discussions by government protected drug smuggler who described contacts with Vice President George Bush and his son, Jeb Bush. DAN MULLONEY, a television news photographer who shot footage of the 1993 Branch Davidian siege. CHARLES RUFF - White House Counsel and Clinton defense attorney during the Monica Lewinsky scandal and the impeachment trial. Of apparent natural causes. JAMES MCDOUGAL - Clinton's convicted Whitewater partner died of an apparent heart attack, while in solitary confinement. McDougal was a key witness in Kenneth Starr's investigation. MARY MAHONEY - A former White House intern was murdered July 6, 1997 at a Starbucks Coffee Shop in Georgetown. The murder happened during the pre-trial publicity surrounding the Paula Jones lawsuit days after Newsweek's Mike Isakoff dropped hints that a former White House staffer was about to go public with her story of sexual harassment in the White House. VINCENT FOSTER - Former White House counselor, and former colleague of Hillary Clinton at Little Rock's Rose law firm. Foster was found dead July 20, 1993 of a gunshot to the head ruled a suicide. Rumours were that Foster and Hillary had an affair. RON BROWN - Secretary of Commerce and former DNC Chairman. Reported to have died by impact in a plane crash. A pathologist close to the investigation reported to the Bob Grant Radio Show a hole in top of Brown's skull resembling a gunshot wound. At the time of his death Brown was being investigated, and spoke publicly of his willingness to cut a deal with prosecutors. C. VICTOR RAISER II - Former National finance Co-Chairman, Clinton for President Campaign and son MONTGOMERY RAISER died in a private plane crash in Alaska, July 30th,1992. Raiser was described as a major player in the Clinton organization by Dee Dee Meyers. JEREMY "MIKE" BOORDA, President Clinton's former Chief of Naval Operations allegedly committed suicide by shooting himself in the chest with a .38 caliber pistol on his front lawn in May 1996. The unauthorized wearing of valor pins was the alleged reasoning behind the suicide. By 1998 this reasoning was proved false after the Navy issued a report that said Boorda earned the right to wear the pins afterall. PAUL TULLEY - Democrat National Committee Political Director found dead in a hotel room in Little Rock, Arkansas September 24, 1992, Described by Clinton as a "Dear friend and trusted advisor". ED WILLEY - Clinton fund raiser-found dead November 30, 1993 deep in the woods in Virginia of a gunshot wound to the head. Ruled a suicide, Willey died on the same day his wife Kathleen Willey claimed that Bill Clinton groped her in the oval office in the White House. Ed Willey was involved in several Clinton fund raising events. JERRY PARKS - Head of Clinton's gubernatorial security team in Little Rock. Gunned down in his car at a deserted intersection outside Little Rock. Parks' son said his father was building a dossier on Clinton. He allegedly threatened to reveal this information. After he died the files were mysteriously removed from his house JAMES BUNCH - Died from a gunshot wound. Reported to have a black book of people containing names of influential people who visited prostitutes in Texas and Arkansas. JAMES WILSON - Was found dead by hanging May 18, 1993. Was reported to have ties to Whitewater. KATHY FERGUSON - Ex-wife of Arkansas Trooper Danny Ferguson died in May,1994 was found dead in her living room with a gunshot wound to her head. It was ruled a suicide even though there were several packed suitcases, as if she was going somewhere. Danny Ferguson was a co-defendant along with Bill Clinton in the Paula Corbin Jones lawsuit. She was reported a possible corroborating witness for Paula Jones case. BILL SHELTON - Arkansas state Trooper and Fiancee of Kathy Ferguson.Critical of the suicide ruling of his fiancee, he was found dead in June, 1994 of a gunshot wound also ruled a suicide at the grave site of his fiancee. GANDY BAUGH - Attorney for Clinton friend Dan Lassater died by falling out a window of a tall building January, 1991. His client was a convicted drug distributor. FLORENCE MARTIN - Accountant subcontractor for the CIA related to the Barry Seal Mena Airport drug smuggling case. Dead of three gunshot wounds. SUZANNE COLEMAN - Reportedly had an affair with Clinton when he was Arkansas Attorney General. Died of a gunshot wound to back of head, ruled a suicide, was pregnant at the time her death. PAULA GROBER - Clinton's speech interpreter for the deaf from 1978 until her death December 9, 1992. She died in a one car accident. DANNY CASOLARO - Investigative reporter, investigating Mena airport and Arkansas Development Finance Authority. Found dead with slit his wrists in the middle of his investigation. PAUL WILCHER - Attorney investigating corruption at Mena Airport with Casolaro and the 1980 "October Surprise" was found dead on a toilet June 22, 1993 in his Washington DC Apartment. Had delivered report to Janet Reno 3 weeks before his death. JON PARNELL WALKER - Whitewater Investigator for Resolution Trust Corporation. Fell to his death from his Arlington, Virginia apartment balcony August 15, 1993. Was investigating Morgan Guarantee scandal. BARBARA WISE - Commerce Department Staffer, worked closely with Ron Brown and John Huang. Cause of death unknown. Died November 29, 1996. Her bruised nude body was found locked in her office at the Department of Commerce. CHARLES MEISSNER - Assistant Secretary of Commerce who gave John Huang special security clearance, died shortly thereafter in a small plane crash. DR.STANLEY HEARD - Chair National Chiropractic Heath Care Advisory committee died with his attorney. STEVE DICKSON - Died in a small plane crash. Heard, in addition to serving on Clinton's advisory council personally treated Clinton's mother, stepfather and brother. BARRY SEAL - Drug running pilot out of Mena, Arkansas. Death was no accident. JOHNNY LAWHORN Jr. - Mechanic, found a check made out to Clinton in the trunk of a car left in his repair shop. Died when his car hit a utility pole. STANLEY MUGGINS - Suicide. Investigated Madison Guarantee. His report was never released. HERSHELL FRIDAY - Attorney and Clinton fund raiser died March 1, 1994 when his plane exploded. KEVIN IVES and DON HENRY - Known as "The boys on the track" case. Reports say the boys may have stumbled upon the Mena Arkansas Airport Drug operation. This controversial case where initial report of death was due to falling asleep on railroad track. Later reports claim the two had been slain before being placed on the tracks. Many people linked to the case died (see below) before their testimony could come before a Grand Jury. THE FOLLOWING SIX PERSONS HAD INFORMATION ON THE IVES/HENRY CASE: KEITH CONEY - Died when his motorcycle slammed into the back of a truck in July, 1988. KEITH McMASKLE - Died, stabbed 113 times, November 1988. GREGORY COLLINS - Died from a gunshot wound, January 1989. JEFF RHODES - He was shot, mutilated and found burned in a trash dump in April 1989. JAMES MILAN. Found decapitated-Coroner ruled death due to natural causes. JORDAN KETTLESON - Was found shot to death in the front seat of his pickup truck in June 1990. RICHARD WINTERS - Winters was a suspect in the Ives/Henry deaths. Was killed in set-up robbery in July 1989. THE FOLLOWING FORMER CLINTON BODYGUARDS ARE DEAD: - MAJOR WILLIAM S. BARKLEY JR. - CAPTAIN SCOTT J.REYNOLDS - SGT. BRIAN HANEY - SGT. TIM SABEL - MAJOR GENERAL WILLIAM ROBERTSON - COL. WILLIAM DENSBERGER - COL. ROBERT KELLY - SPEC. GARY RHODES - STEVE WILLIS - ROBERT WILLIAMS - CONWAY LeBLEU - TODD McKEEHAN And finally, BUDDY, the Presidential Dog, killed when he was struck by a car after having escaped his kennel. Before someone says it, yes 3000+ military members have died under president Bush... (insert you comments here) How about giving the author of that list some credit? In addition to that, why don't you link directly to the homepage of her site, which promotes the formation of a large third party able to compete with the democrats and republicans? http://www.lizmichael.com/clintond.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HAOLE Posted January 23, 2007 Report Share Posted January 23, 2007 How about giving the author of that list some credit? In addition to that, why don't you link directly to the homepage of her site, which promotes the formation of a large third party able to compete with the democrats and republicans? http://www.lizmichael.com/clintond.htm No mater who wrote it the people are still dead... and I doubt she was the original author. The list has been circulated since the mid 90's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Zoomtard Posted January 23, 2007 Report Share Posted January 23, 2007 So what you are saying is that the list has no credible author or source to back up the claims in it? I take it you researched every single one to make sure the list in its entirety was indeed factual? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Zoomtard Posted January 23, 2007 Report Share Posted January 23, 2007 Thats fine, I can play your game. Bush Death List A Roster of the Dead This is a list of bodies, a roster of the dead, who might have been called Witnesses had they not met their untimely ends. Some of the names on this list will give you pause. Some are rumor. Some you may find incredible, and some frightening. Do your own research http://www.google.com. You will draw your own conclusions. The above paragraph began the last edition of the Bush Body Count. In previous editions, there were no special criteria for adding bodies - only that they could be related to the Bush family in some way, and be dead. In fact, the original Bush Body Count started as a parody of the so-called Clinton Death List. Times have changed. The Bush Body Count is no longer a parody, and many of the names have been removed. This edition examines the scandals and misdeeds of the Bush family generations, and lists the corpses they leave in their wake. Bush Went AWOL Bodies Sid Adger Mr. Adger, a Houston oil supply company executive and Bush family friend, died in 1996 of unknown causes. Adger was the mysterious businessman who approached General James Rose and asked him to help George W. Bush avoid Vietnam by recommending him for a pilot position with the National Guard. General James Rose General Rose recommended George W. Bush for a pilot position with the Texas National Guard. He died of unknown causes in 1993. He was immediately buried and no autopsy was performed. Lt. Colonel William Harris, Jr. Lt. Col. William Harris was one of two commanding officers who could not perform George W. Bush's annual evaluation covering the year from May 1, 1972 to April 30, 1973. They stated in their filing that "Lt. Bush has not been observed at this unit during the period of this report." Fortunately for George W. Bush, Lt. Col. Harris is not here to verify his 1973 statement. He's dead. Lt. Colonel Jerry B. Killian Lt. Col. Jerry B. Killian was another of George W. Bush's commanding officers. He cannot testify in a court of law as to George W. Bush's dereliction of his sworn duty. Lt. Col. Killian is dead. James Downing Aalund Mr. Aalund's name is the first on a long list of young Texans who died in Vietnam. These young men did not have influential fathers to pull the strings necessary to get them into the Texas Air National Guard. If they had been so lucky, they would surely have fulfilled their responsibilities to the ANG, if only out of gratitude that they did not have to die, thousands of miles away in a strange land. They surely would not have disappeared from duty for over a year, as did our fearless leader George W. Bush. Enron Bodies J. Clifford Baxter Found dead in his car, shot in the head. Mr. Baxter was vice chairman of Enron Corp. when he resigned in May 2001. Enron has been hot copy lately with the revelation that they were the largest campaign contributors for George W. Bush. Was J. Clifford Baxter a potential witness to Bush foreknowledge of their wrongdoings? His death was ruled a suicide. Charles Dana Rice He was the senior vice president and treasurer of El Paso Corp., an energy corporation swept up in the recent energy scandal. Two months after the "suicide" of Enron executive Clifford Baxter, in the midst of questions about the accounting practices of El Paso Corp., Charles Rice was found dead of a gunshot wound to the head. His death was ruled a suicide. James Daniel Watkins His body was found on December 1, 2001 in the Pike National Forest in Colorado, a gunshot wound to the head. Mr. Watkins was a consultant for Arthur Andersen, the accounting firm for Enron. He disappeared on November 13 after he left work. He was described as a devoted family man who always called home if he were going to be late. Officials initially said that the death was suspicious, but have changed their tune and have ruled his death a suicide. Commerce Secretary Ron Brown He died in a plane crash on April 3, 1996. Was Ron Brown the first Enron body? In 1995 Enron officials accompanied Brown on a trade mission to India, and to Russia in 1994. Speculation among right-wing whackos suggests that our last duly-elected President, Bill Clinton, was somehow responsible for his death, but we wonder: was Secretary Brown privy to information that would conclusively link George W. Bush to Enron greed and corruption? Charles Meissner, Assistant Commerce Secretary, also died in this crash. Jake Horton He was the senior ice-president of Gulf Power, a subsidiary of Southern Company, a cohort of Enron in the energy industry, and a major contributer to the Bush agenda. According to reporter Gregory Palast http://GregPalast.com and http://www.guardian.co.uk/enron/story/0,11337,643422,00.html , Horton knew of the company's appalling accounting practices, and "... had no doubt about its illegal campaign contributions to Florida politicans - he'd made the payments himself. In April of 1989 Horton decided to come clean with state officials, and reserved the company jet to go confront company officials. Ten minutes after takeoff the jet exploded. Kennedy Assassination Bodies John Fitzgerald Kennedy An internal FBI memo reported that on November 22 a reputed businessman named George H. W. Bush reported hearsay that a certain Young Republican had been talking of killing the President when he came to Houston. The Young Republican was nowhere near Dallas on that date. According to a 1988 story in The Nation, J. Edgar Hoover said in a memo that Mr. George Bush of the CIA had been briefed on November 23rd, 1963 about the reaction of anti-Castro Cuban exiles in Miami to the assassination of President Kennedy. George H. W. Bush has denied this, although he was in Texas and cannot account for his whereabouts at the time. Hale Boggs He sat on the Warren Commission, which concluded that President Kennedy was slain by a lone assassin. Later, in 1971 and '72, Boggs said that the Warren Report was false and that J. Edgar Hoover's FBI not only helped cover up the JFK murder but blackmailed Congress with massive wire-tapping and spying. He named Warren Commission staff member Arlen Specter as a major cover-up artist. Congressman Boggs' plane disappeared on a flight to Alaska in 1972. The press, the military, and the CIA publicly proclaimed the plane could not be located. Investigators later said that was a lie, that the plane had been found. On the plane were Nick Begich, a very popular Democratic Congressman, and Don Jonz, an aide to Mr. Boggs. All were killed. George de Mohrenschildt A rich Russian oilman, he was described with his wife as being the two people friendliest to Oswald at the time of the assassination. De Mohrenschildt was the man who moved Oswald to Dallas. In the late 1970's, shortly before the first meeting of the House Select Committee on Assassinations, de Mohrenschildt started seeing a new doctor in town. He quickly became mentally unstable, at which time his wife convinced him to stop seeing the doctor. They moved away and left a false forwarding address. On the same day that the Committee tried to contact him about testifying, he was found dead of a gunshot wound. In his personal address book was the entry Bush, George H.W. (Poppy) and Zapata Petroleum Midland (the oil company owned by George H.W. Bush). Mrs. E. Howard Hunt In December 1972, while George H. W. Bush was at the Republican National Convention, a United Airlines flight carrying Mrs. Dorothy Hunt, CIA operative and wife of Howard Hunt, (CIA operative and suspect in the Kennedy assassination) crashed. Believed to be carrying $25,000 in "hush money", she died in this crash. George H.W. Bush Bodies Gary Caradori He was investigating Lawrence E. King, Jr., a very influential black Republican who was also a friend of George H.W. Bush. King was director of the Franklin Community Credit Union in Omaha, Nebraska, and was suspected of embezzling $40 million . The Nebraska Senate questioned child prostitutes, who accused King of running a child prostitution ring. One of these children said that she saw George H.W. Bush at one of King's parties. "Pronto", a newspaper in Barcelona, Spain, reported that the scandal "appears to directly implicate politicos of the state of Nebraska and Washington DC who are very close to the White House and George Bush himself". On July 11, 1990, Gary Caradori was killed along with his 6-year old son in the crash of his small plane, after a mid-air explosion, the cause of which was never discovered. He had told friends repeatedly in the weeks before his death that he was afraid his plane would be sabotaged. Orlando Letelier He was torn to bits by a car bomb on the streets of Washington DC just before he was to testify against the Chilean dictator Pinochet. After the bombing, CIA Director George H. W. Bush told the FBI that there had been no Chilean involvement whatsoever. In 1991 the post-Pinochet Chilean Supreme Court asked George H. W. Bush if he would submit to questioning. BUSH REFUSED. Ronni Moffit She was Letelier's assistant. She and her husband were riding in the car with Letelier when the bomb exploded. Mr. Moffit survived. Ronni didn't. Jack Delaney and Ted White These young men were killed when pilot George H. W. Bush abandoned his plane when it was hit by enemy fire. Much has been made of this story - Bush propaganda would have us believe that he was a hero. An eyewitness to the event tells us otherwise: Chester Mierzejewski, who was the turret gunner in another plane, had an unobstructed view. He states that he saw a "puff of smoke" come from Bush's plane and quickly dissipate. He states that the plane was never on fire and that Bush never attempted a water landing, which was standard procedure, and which would have given Mr. Delaney and Mr. White a chance. Silent Voices Bodies Steve Kangas His web site, Liberalism Resurgent, was meticulously researched and presented such a problem to the "real boss" of George Bush, Richard Scaife, that he hired a private detective to look into Kangas' past. Steve Kangas was found in a 39th-floor bathroom outside of Scaife's offices at One Oxford Centre, in Pittsburgh, an apparent suicide. Mr. Kangas, a very prolific writer, left no note. He had brought a fully-packed suitcase of clothes with him to Pittsburgh. He bought a burglar alarm shortly before he left for Pittsburgh. Why did he need a burglar alarm if he was going to commit suicide? An avowed advocate of gun control, he nevertheless bought a gun. What was he afraid of? Why did he go to Pittsburgh? After his death, his computer was sold for $150 and its hard drive wiped clean. Everything in his apartment was thrown away. Danny Casolaro He was working on a book that tied together the scandals surrounding the presidency of George H. W. Bush. He told his friends he was going to "bring back" the head of the Octopus. Instead, his body was found in a hotel in Martinsburg, West Virginia, on August 10, 1991, an apparent suicide. Mark Lombardi He was an accomplished conceptual artist who, while chatting on the phone with a banker friend about the Bush savings and loan scandal, started doodling a diagram and was inspired to create a complex series of drawings and sketches that charted the details of the scandal. According to the New York Times, "He was soon charting the complex matrices of personal and professional relationships, conflict of interest, malfeasance and fraud uncovered by investigations into the major financial and political scandals of the day; to keep facts and sources straight, he created a handwritten database that now includes around 12,000 3-by-5-inch cards." On the evening of March 22, 2000, Mark Lombardi was found hanging in his loft, an apparent suicide. James Hatfield Mr. Hatfield was the author of Fortunate Son, an unauthorized biography of George W. Bush. The book detailed Bush's cocaine use and cover up of a cocaine arrest. He was found Wednesday, July 18, in a motel room, an apparent suicide. Prescott Bush Bodies William S. Farish He was one of Prescott Bush's partners in business deals with Adolph Hitler. He was devastated by the intense grilling he received from the Senate about his dealings with Nazis, and while Prescott Bush skated free, Farish collapsed and died on November 29, 1942. James Forrestal He was U.S. Secretary of Defense, and become a problem for Prescott Bush when he proposed racial integration of the Armed Forces. On March 28, 1949, he was forced out of office and flown on a military plane to Jupiter Island in Florida. From there he was taken to Walter Reed Army Hospital, where he was given insulin shock treatments. He was shielded from all visitors except his estranged wife. From "George Bush, the Unauthorized Biography": On May 22, Forrestal's body was found, his bathrobe cord tied tightly around his neck, after he had plunged from a sixteenth-story hospital window. The chief psychiatrist called the death a suicide even before any investigation was started. The results of the Army's inquest were kept secret. Forrestal's diaries were published, 80 percent deleted, after a year of direct government censorship and rewriting Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HAOLE Posted January 23, 2007 Report Share Posted January 23, 2007 So what you are saying is that the list has no credible author or source to back up the claims in it? I take it you researched every single one to make sure the list in its entirety was indeed factual? Would you like a dissertation on the subject, or did this just hit a little nerve with you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HAOLE Posted January 23, 2007 Report Share Posted January 23, 2007 Zoomtard.... I knew someone would bite on the Bush hating stuff. Maybe you should start posting at Moveon.org if the have a forum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Zoomtard Posted January 23, 2007 Report Share Posted January 23, 2007 http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/home/today.guest.html I bet this site has a forum as well, perhaps you should join. It's a two way street. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HAOLE Posted January 23, 2007 Report Share Posted January 23, 2007 http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/home/today.guest.html I bet this site has a forum as well, perhaps you should join. It's a two way street. already done Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Zoomtard Posted January 23, 2007 Report Share Posted January 23, 2007 As far as a dissertation is concerned, I don't think that is necessary. However, a CITATION would be just fine..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cptn janks Posted January 23, 2007 Report Share Posted January 23, 2007 Can people give some reasons they don't like Hillary OTHER than she's a woman married to Bill she's a democrat Name the specific policies that she pushes that cause you to be against her. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cptn janks Posted January 23, 2007 Report Share Posted January 23, 2007 i hope it ends up: barak obama v. ron paul its a win win situation IMO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Zoomtard Posted January 23, 2007 Report Share Posted January 23, 2007 already done Yes, because Rush Limbaugh has proven himself to be a wealth of factual information as well as a man of his word........ Much more reliable than a site like Moveon.org..... (which I was a member of briefly for research purposes) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Science Abuse Posted January 23, 2007 Report Share Posted January 23, 2007 christ almighty, never get in a plane after you piss off a politician! DARLENE NOVINGER - Former FBI operative, January 23rd, 2003. Novinger was known to hold sensitive information on the Clinton and Bush I administration's drug operations. Her husband murdered March 1987 when she went public with initial reports. Her father died July 8, 1993 four hours after Darlene was a guest on the Tom Valentine show. Suffered retaliation after reporting discussions by government protected drug smuggler who described contacts with Vice President George Bush and his son, Jeb Bush. "Bush" doesn't sound like "Clinton", I think she's on the wrong list. If I wrote a list of everyone I knew or worked witht hat has died, it would be about that long, and I'm not even that old. That is serious a pathetic and weak list of "connections". Honnestly what did you hope to accomplish by posting that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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