wnaplay1647545503 Posted March 3, 2007 Report Share Posted March 3, 2007 The top bolt on the starter on my van is stripped, which I cannot figure out how since it is the original starter. but it is and I cant get it off. I tried using a reverse extractor but still wont budge. I cant get the next smaller size to beat on. What are my options? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wnaplay1647545503 Posted March 3, 2007 Author Report Share Posted March 3, 2007 Fuck, fuck, fuck, now its fucking snowing. Shit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave1647545494 Posted March 3, 2007 Report Share Posted March 3, 2007 if your replacing the starter you can crack the mounting ear off with a cold chisel or an air hammer to get the starter out that should give you more room to get an extractor or vice grips or whatever into play on the frozen bolt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest 614Streets Posted March 3, 2007 Report Share Posted March 3, 2007 Oxy-Acetylene the bolt head off remove starter , heat stud with map gas till shes cherry spray her down with pb blaster and use a stud puller to rachet it out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJ Posted March 3, 2007 Report Share Posted March 3, 2007 it sounds like all the advise so far has come from people that went to BMI. Backyard mechanic institute. between cutting and braking shit off. Hot steel + PB = shit ton of smoke with a possibility of fire. did you try to pound a different socket on, i know you said the next size smaller but i mean if your using metric try SAE and the other way around. use EITHER heat or PB but not both at the same time. i think a last resort would be cutting the head off and using stud removers i know i've never had to do that, Also impact drivers are your friend you can find them that you can put a 3/8 socket on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rl Posted March 3, 2007 Report Share Posted March 3, 2007 Is it a ford? The only bolt I have ever had that I was 100% unable to get out was a starter bolt on a 5.4L. They use uncoated bolts in aluminum and it causes them to seize something fierce. I ended up cutting the bolt, drilling it and using a Helicoil. Without the correct tooling this would be difficult. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave1647545494 Posted March 3, 2007 Report Share Posted March 3, 2007 it sounds like all the advise so far has come from people that went to BMI. Backyard mechanic institute. between cutting and braking shit off. Hot steel + PB = shit ton of smoke with a possibility of fire. did you try to pound a different socket on, i know you said the next size smaller but i mean if your using metric try SAE and the other way around. use EITHER heat or PB but not both at the same time. i think a last resort would be cutting the head off and using stud removers i know i've never had to do that, Also impact drivers are your friend you can find them that you can put a 3/8 socket on. it sounds like he's working on the van in his driveway I offered him I viable alternative if your replacing the starter it won't hurt a damn thing to break the ear off Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wnaplay1647545503 Posted March 3, 2007 Author Report Share Posted March 3, 2007 Yeah its a ford. I will try to pop off the ear as suggested thus freeing up some space and go at the bolt itself. If I drill it out can I just throughbolt with a bolt and nut? Its very tight under there. Not alot of room to try many things or pound a smaller extractor socket on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dakotart Posted March 3, 2007 Report Share Posted March 3, 2007 Jason, How badly rounded is the bolt? I have a set of wrenches that will work on bolts up to 70% rounded. I could stop by and let you try one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wnaplay1647545503 Posted March 4, 2007 Author Report Share Posted March 4, 2007 It appears to be rounded pretty good. There is just no room to work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave1647545494 Posted March 4, 2007 Report Share Posted March 4, 2007 if its an open hole you can drill it and use a nut and a lockwasher it would be better to tap the hole, but either method will work Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TurboTank Posted March 4, 2007 Report Share Posted March 4, 2007 if its the 5.0 motor ive been there done that.. i cut the bolt head off and removed the starter. then heated the area and removed with some bad ass vice grips. that bolt is also a special head size in relation to the shank. i just used some new grade 8 hex head bolts with some anti seize on them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wnaplay1647545503 Posted March 4, 2007 Author Report Share Posted March 4, 2007 I have been doing some researching and it seems thatalot of people have problems with these ford starter bolts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest 614Streets Posted March 4, 2007 Report Share Posted March 4, 2007 it sounds like all the advise so far has come from people that went to BMI. Backyard mechanic institute. between cutting and braking shit off. Hot steel + PB = shit ton of smoke with a possibility of fire. did you try to pound a different socket on, i know you said the next size smaller but i mean if your using metric try SAE and the other way around. use EITHER heat or PB but not both at the same time. i think a last resort would be cutting the head off and using stud removers i know i've never had to do that, Also impact drivers are your friend you can find them that you can put a 3/8 socket on. Your a fucking duchebag dude Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wnaplay1647545503 Posted March 4, 2007 Author Report Share Posted March 4, 2007 Well I airhammered the starter off leaving the bolt and the ear off the starter but I still cant get anything to grab that. Vice gripes hold for a bit but dont get it done. Anyone ever use one of those gator grip sockets? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
verse Posted March 4, 2007 Report Share Posted March 4, 2007 Your a fucking duchebag dude Why? He was just informing him. PB buster is flammable, it will catch on fire if you try to torch it. I've seen it happen. Not that it's not controllable, but still. Have you tried to use the air hammer to try to chisel it out? Like notch it from the side and try to push it counter-clockwise to loosen the bolt? That has worked for me in the past. You just have to be careful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wnaplay1647545503 Posted March 4, 2007 Author Report Share Posted March 4, 2007 I'm worried about snapping the bolt off. i will convince a mechanic from work to assist tomorrow after work. Hopefully we can figure something out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave1647545494 Posted March 4, 2007 Report Share Posted March 4, 2007 did you get the chunk of ear off from under the bolt? get the pressure off the bolt and it should come out if it doesn't you'll need to drill it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wnaplay1647545503 Posted March 4, 2007 Author Report Share Posted March 4, 2007 Not yet, I am afraid of snapping the bolt off and then I 'll be screwed. It s a thick chunk of metal and doesnt chip away easily. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wnaplay1647545503 Posted March 5, 2007 Author Report Share Posted March 5, 2007 Damn I didnt think I would ever get that bolt out. I want to thank everyone who chimed in with some help but I would like to extend a big thanks to Mr Sigman for having straight forward answers that worked perfectly. I could see what needed to be done but I wasnt sure if I should go about it until someone seconded my thoughts, but it worked and I am happy its starting again. Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave1647545494 Posted March 5, 2007 Report Share Posted March 5, 2007 no problem if there s a core on the starter put the broken ear facing down in the box so you get full credit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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