2 Sweet Posted April 25, 2007 Report Share Posted April 25, 2007 Most people think import cars are better because they are clueless and need the dumbshits at Consumer Reports to tell them what to think. Whaaaa, the Cobalt interior looks like crap. Well it looks as good as a Corolla IMO. People that buy Cobatls don't buy them for their interiors. Hell, the interior on my '91 S10 is as plain and simple and basic as you can get, and I like it. If you want a nice interior, go buy a Buick or Cadillac or something that costs more than 18k brand new and was targeted to the high school and college market (I am referring to the Cobalt). GM build quality is just as good, if not better, than Toyota or Honda or whoever you wanna compare them to. Some of you guys should try talking to a mechanic sometime, they might change your views. Ever notice that 75% of the mechanics at Roush Honda drive a Chevy? True story. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bam Posted April 25, 2007 Report Share Posted April 25, 2007 The wife drives a Matrix, best damn car I've ever owned. She beats the shit out of it with her lack of driving skills and has put 50k miles on the car and it has never missed a beat. Plus it gets 40+mpg on the hwy. Sure it could be a little better sound insulated, but for under $15k what do you expect. Then again, I haven't had a single issue with my 06 Mazda3s and I'm nearing 25k miles now and I too beat on it being a 4cylinder, but for a daily its awesome and much quieter/smoother ride than the Toyota, for just a little more, but it definitely sucks for gas mpg, good luck getting 30mpg hwy. But what is Mazda considered? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
93toNV Posted April 25, 2007 Report Share Posted April 25, 2007 Mazda is owned by Ford Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bam Posted April 25, 2007 Report Share Posted April 25, 2007 Mazda is owned by Ford No shit, but they are like 90% built in Japan and have almost all foreign parts. I remember when I bought my car, one of the window stickers said the percentage of Japan parts and then I got the shippers bill, rail slip, etc, from japan. So i wasn't sure what people considered it. import/domestic? I mean Honda is import but they are built 30miles north of my house...go figure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
93toNV Posted April 25, 2007 Report Share Posted April 25, 2007 Well damn, dont get snotty with me about it. You asked what Mazda was considered, so I assumed you didnt know who made mazdas. Excuse the hell out of me. I guess I would call it an import though if I had to classify it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bam Posted April 25, 2007 Report Share Posted April 25, 2007 I didn't mean to jump all over you, I just figured my question was clear that I knew that Mazda was owned by Ford, but that it was built overseas, so therefore I was unsure... Which is exactly what I thought, an IMPORT but in most basic repects its a FORD. Weird huh? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mallard Posted April 25, 2007 Report Share Posted April 25, 2007 I think that the numbers I heard were higher than your links, as they were counting indirect employees also.... all I know is that I prefer Toyota and my FJ will tow the hell out of a Sky. If you count 'indirect employees' I assume you're talking about people that work for suppliers of Toytoa parts? Or maybe contract/temp workers? Toyota does carry more temp workers then a company like GM (thank the UAW) but that's not going to be near 100,000+ people. If you could people that work for suppliers that have Toyota contracts then you would have to count most of those people for GM too. Companies like that have business with almost every car maker. One of Toyota's biggest suppliers is Delphi. That's why they were just as scared of a Delphi worker strike and GM. The company I work for has business with GM, Ford, Toyota, Chrysler, Nissan (that's what we do in the US. Overseas we do Merceds, BMW, VW, even Bugatti!), and you'll see the same trend through the entire industry. p.s. The Sky (stock) may not tow as much as your FJ, but I can corner hard without rolling over. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skinner Posted April 25, 2007 Report Share Posted April 25, 2007 Well damn, dont get snotty with me about it. You asked what Mazda was considered, so I assumed you didnt know who made mazdas. Excuse the hell out of me. I guess I would call it an import though if I had to classify it. actually mazda makes mazdas yes Ford owns them, the only mazda's that ford as a hand-in in building arethe B-2000 (truck) and the mazda 6 (but not the mazdaspeed 6 that is built in japan). Bam your right the 3 is 90% built in Japan and 10% in Canada. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Removed Posted April 26, 2007 Report Share Posted April 26, 2007 the b-3000 is a ranger. or did they stop building them? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skinner Posted April 26, 2007 Report Share Posted April 26, 2007 the b-3000 is a ranger. or did they stop building them? as far as I know the3y still are offered (at least in 05 when we bought the 3). yeah I know its a ranger I was just say that its built by ford not mazda. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TTQ B4U Posted April 26, 2007 Report Share Posted April 26, 2007 It doesn't surprise me that Toyota took over the first quarter spot and will likely continue to pull on GM. I don't care who compares what...who employs more, who is more profitable, who owns who, who OEM's what to who, Interior quality, mechanical problems, warranty, etc.....bottom line is the market has spoken and Toyota world wide just trumped the Big Dog. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Jones Posted April 26, 2007 Report Share Posted April 26, 2007 It doesn't surprise me that Toyota took over the first quarter spot and will likely continue to pull on GM. I don't care who compares what...who employs more, who is more profitable, who owns who, who OEM's what to who, Interior quality, mechanical problems, warranty, etc.....bottom line is the market has spoken and Toyota world wide just trumped the Big Dog. Well said. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sol740 Posted April 26, 2007 Report Share Posted April 26, 2007 Most people think import cars are better because they are clueless and need the dumbshits at Consumer Reports to tell them what to think. Whaaaa, the Cobalt interior looks like crap. Well it looks as good as a Corolla IMO. People that buy Cobatls don't buy them for their interiors. Hell, the interior on my '91 S10 is as plain and simple and basic as you can get, and I like it. If you want a nice interior, go buy a Buick or Cadillac or something that costs more than 18k brand new and was targeted to the high school and college market (I am referring to the Cobalt). GM build quality is just as good, if not better, than Toyota or Honda or whoever you wanna compare them to. Some of you guys should try talking to a mechanic sometime, they might change your views. Ever notice that 75% of the mechanics at Roush Honda drive a Chevy? True story. People like different cars for different reasons, many of which don't fall under the category of being "clueless". Toyotas and Hondas and the like worked their way up from being under-dogs. Good for them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotty2Hotty Posted April 27, 2007 Report Share Posted April 27, 2007 Wait til the long awaited Camaro comes back. Ford sold the new mustangs like free blow jobs, I can't wait to see the reaction on the camaros. GM will regain the crown from Toyota. (If not we'll nuke their ass WWII style again) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Posted April 27, 2007 Report Share Posted April 27, 2007 I bet the Camaro will help immensely, but won't be the end-all to their problems. Hopefully it will inspire consumer confidence in them. Again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotty2Hotty Posted April 27, 2007 Report Share Posted April 27, 2007 I bet the Camaro will help immensely, but won't be the end-all to their problems. Hopefully it will inspire consumer confidence in them. Again. Won't pull them completely out the shit water, BUT, like the mustang, I believe it's gonna spark some LOYALTY once again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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