Guest extremedreamsjh Posted October 14, 2007 Report Share Posted October 14, 2007 well here is a little history so far.. i was looking around about a week ago and i found a crx shell on ebay.. i was thinking here we go this will give me and my friends something to do.. so i picked it up.. it was in maryland long road trip lol... it was a 89 si.. it already had a body kit skunk 2 coil overs it has some crabonfiber tail lights.. Yeah i know u guys are going to rip me here lol.. so i was thinking let me put a "mini me" down in it since i already have about everything needed to complete it since i already took the engine out of my other rex..We're hoping to get somewhere around 180HP and keep it very streetable and also capable of being my daily... (but if not oh well lol) so here is where it starts The "rex" once we put it in the garage http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a46/RaddoDubbs/DSCF3164.jpg week 1 We took the trany off of the d16a6 block engine and took the clutch out and threw it away.. We brought the turbo over to the garage and all the turbo accesories.. we took the a6 head off of the block and put it off into the conner.. (PS its for sale lol0.. we took the oil pressure plug out.. cleaned off the block from the old organic head gasket (it was a PITA btw) Cleaned up the rest of the block to prep it for a light paint job. We also had to replace the front crossmember of the CRX due to the previous owners chopping off the motor mount from what I believe was them putting in a B-series swap. Week 2 Well we picked up a crx si wiring harness and guage cluster from a 89 crx si from the junk yard on saturday. Then we drove up to Jegs and purchased ARP head studs. After that we Took a trip up to Reynoldsburg to meet up with Curtis and bought a o2 sensor and a couple misc connectors. Sunday we bolted the head down to the block and put in new timing belt from a 92-95 si civic. Now all we need to complete the motor part is a rear main seal and a clutch and the motor is ready to drop in. We also still have to get the wire harness adapter and a ecu. after that we're pretty much fone minus a new turbo or adapter for out turbo to fit the t3 flange we have. Engine bay with no motor or wire harness http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a46/RaddoDubbs/DSCF3165.jpg The Donor motor d16a6 http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a46/RaddoDubbs/DSCF3163.jpg Working on cleaning up the block http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a46/RaddoDubbs/DSCF3167.jpg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boosted98gst Posted October 14, 2007 Report Share Posted October 14, 2007 I do not see shit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bam Posted October 14, 2007 Report Share Posted October 14, 2007 I see shit. *fixed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Removed Posted October 14, 2007 Report Share Posted October 14, 2007 wrong way to post pics man...this aint myspace! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest extremedreamsjh Posted October 14, 2007 Report Share Posted October 14, 2007 sorry guys my other forum I use can use html codes....How do I post pics up in here??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
V8 Beast Posted October 14, 2007 Report Share Posted October 14, 2007 URL Photobucket already has it set to where you can copy and paste it. Look for the beside/under the pic. You might want to resize it to "message board" size as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest extremedreamsjh Posted October 14, 2007 Report Share Posted October 14, 2007 Fixed it guys thanks for the help ;-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Jones Posted October 14, 2007 Report Share Posted October 14, 2007 Wow, I'm not sure if I've ever seen such a unique project before. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TURBOED Posted October 14, 2007 Report Share Posted October 14, 2007 Wow, I'm not sure if I've ever seen such a unique project before. I'm calling :bs: on 180hp being kept streetable. 150+ hp = track only :grin2: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest extremedreamsjh Posted October 14, 2007 Report Share Posted October 14, 2007 ok thanks well we will see what happens like i said in the post i really dont care what the numbers turn out to be i am doing it for something to do Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
04silvrz Posted October 16, 2007 Report Share Posted October 16, 2007 nice. love me some old school honda Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
87GT Posted October 16, 2007 Report Share Posted October 16, 2007 89-91 hondas are teh sex. Don't listen to everyone else saying bad things about them. I don't think your numbers are going to be 180 on just a mini-me swap. Turbo it then we will see. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
verse Posted October 16, 2007 Report Share Posted October 16, 2007 Don't tell me you're using that wire wheel to clean the deck surfaces of the block.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest extremedreamsjh Posted October 16, 2007 Report Share Posted October 16, 2007 lol verse no we was using it to clean the front of the block off.. trowa we are planning on turboing it with 10 to 12 pounds of boost.. Has anyone on here done this swap with a turbo and running 10 to 12 pounds of bost? What was the Hp numbers? i am doing this for a fun lil street car and something my girl can drive because i dont want her driving my other one Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
87GT Posted October 16, 2007 Report Share Posted October 16, 2007 I have never boosted a honda motor before so I am not sure. I love the b20 engine. I like the torque output it has. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaSSon Posted October 16, 2007 Report Share Posted October 16, 2007 12psi = 180hp? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Removed Posted October 16, 2007 Report Share Posted October 16, 2007 a mini me swap has nothing to do with a SOHC engine! mini me = ls short block + vtec head! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaddyBuiltRacing Posted October 16, 2007 Report Share Posted October 16, 2007 ^^wrong!!! Mini me is the sohc non vtec block with a sohc vtec head....ls block with vtec head is Frankenstein just like a b20 bottom end with b series vtec head and the h23/h22 combo or the k24/k20 variation. The name Mini Me comes from being a smaller version of these combinations i.e D series!! Mini mes are known to be very unreliable usually some sort of oil starvation. Trust me i've owned 3 and have blown them all up, replaced them all with either a straight sohc vtec swap or b series swap. Make sure you buy arp head studs for the z6 when you put that head on the block. Re-using stock head studs will just cost you more in the end. Stock studs stretch due to heat over time and will cause you to continuously blow head gaskets. Arp's for a D series are 95bucks, so spend the extra cash and save yourself time and more money. Wanna test my knowledge? Try me, im known for my knowledge on hondas Just ask matts281n20 Anymore questions on this project let me know. I know some neat little tricks for the D series using all stock parts....like for instance, take a z6 intake manifold and bolt a fox body mustang throttle body up to it!! You can also use a B series throttle body since those are kinda easier to find. Just one of the many tricks I have up my sleeve. Also what kind of vtec engagement system are you going to run...are you going to do a obd1 conversion and use a p28 or are you staying obd0 and using some sort of rpm activated switch? If you stay obd0 and use a switch I highly recomend a PG7 out of a 88-89 integra and a fuel pressure regulator as the PM6 combined with the z6 head will cause you to run lean and BOOM!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattsn2o281 Posted October 16, 2007 Report Share Posted October 16, 2007 Dont bring me into this asshole . You do know your shit when it comes to rice rockets, but from what i've seen, Rob ain't exactly a retard when it comes to cars, and he knows his shit when it comes to fabbing shit up. Thats all i have add, now go dream about beating mustangs. just remember, it all starts with a dream.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cbustuner Posted October 16, 2007 Report Share Posted October 16, 2007 You won't be impressed with the sohc vtec head ( and this is coming from someone with a turbo z6).You should have just left the A6 alone.The vtec heads going to bump up compression, plus to even get the full effects of the vtec your going to need to be able to switch from high cam and low cam maps, so if you weren't planning on it go ahead and add obd1 conversion to your list of parts.There are other ways.(zdyne ecu,turboedit obd0 1 wire conversion if you can find that 88-91 civic ex auto ecu) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaddyBuiltRacing Posted October 16, 2007 Report Share Posted October 16, 2007 Ah yes the ever elusive Auto EX lol. Those things are a pain in the ass to find, my buddy might actually have an ecu out of one. The only advantage of the z6 compared to the a6 other then vtak is flow. But honestly I dont like taking heads and blocks that arent made from the factory for each other and combining them. Thats why I am sticking with a staight LS compared to LS/Vtec....you start throwing parts together that arent meant to be and your playing with fire. Add boost to that mess and your asking for trouble. I've seen even motors built and designed for non vtec bottom end with vtec head combos blow up after a short time. Some things just arent meant to be my man. Also I wasnt trying to call gearhead out, just show him that he was a little misguiding in his post that is all Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Removed Posted October 16, 2007 Report Share Posted October 16, 2007 ^^wrong!!! Mini me is the sohc non vtec block with a sohc vtec head....ls block with vtec head is Frankenstein just like a b20 bottom end with b series vtec head and the h23/h22 combo or the k24/k20 variation. The name Mini Me comes from being a smaller version of these combinations i.e D series!! Mini mes are known to be very unreliable usually some sort of oil starvation. Trust me i've owned 3 and have blown them all up, replaced them all with either a straight sohc vtec swap or b series swap. Make sure you buy arp head studs for the z6 when you put that head on the block. Re-using stock head studs will just cost you more in the end. Stock studs stretch due to heat over time and will cause you to continuously blow head gaskets. Arp's for a D series are 95bucks, so spend the extra cash and save yourself time and more money. Wanna test my knowledge? Try me, im known for my knowledge on hondas Just ask matts281n20 Anymore questions on this project let me know. I know some neat little tricks for the D series using all stock parts....like for instance, take a z6 intake manifold and bolt a fox body mustang throttle body up to it!! You can also use a B series throttle body since those are kinda easier to find. Just one of the many tricks I have up my sleeve. Also what kind of vtec engagement system are you going to run...are you going to do a obd1 conversion and use a p28 or are you staying obd0 and using some sort of rpm activated switch? If you stay obd0 and use a switch I highly recomend a PG7 out of a 88-89 integra and a fuel pressure regulator as the PM6 combined with the z6 head will cause you to run lean and BOOM!! wrong , frankinstein is H series mismatch(22 top with a 23 lower) mini-me is either ls/b20 bottom with v-tec b series head! and k series shit is just that, K series swap!with the 24 lower and 20 head! and ill bet the d series that i built running around will smack any d series you have in the fucking mouth! true story. :asshole: stone stock internals at that http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y196/gearhead559/milkys%20bottle%20fed%20civic/100_1708.jpg care to try it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaddyBuiltRacing Posted October 16, 2007 Report Share Posted October 16, 2007 Ah gearhead so wrong yet again here let me prove you wrong just a little bit more. I wasnt trying to start shit with you but here we go: Mini Me: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Honda_D_engine#Mini-Me http://www.honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=2125980 http://www.honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=2125358 LS/VTEC H23/Vtec i.e Frankenstein: Also, complete Frankenstein motors (motors made from parts of others) are possible; these are also known as LS/VTEC or CR/VTEC (B20/VTEC), depending on the bottom end used. It is popular to take the large displacement, high-torque B18B (or B18A) bottom end and mate it to a high-flow B16 (PR3) or B18C (P72 or PR3) top end to make a very powerful custom motor. One problem however is the LS (B18A or B18B) and CR-V (B20B or B20Z) blocks used for LS/VTEC or CR/VTEC (B20/VTEC) conversions are more prone to fail at high RPMs because the rod bolts and long stroke were not designed to withstand the high engine speeds that VTEC heads are optimized for. The LS/VTEC configuration is logically what Honda would have first considered when designing the B18C1, but they saw a reason to reduce the stroke, reinforce the bottom end, and add oil squirters to help cool it. The reduction in the stroke came at the cost of lowering the displacement from 1834 cc to 1797 cc, but helped enable the benefit of reliable 8100 RPM operation. http://www.honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=2126547 Should I continue? BTW on your D series MINI ME...youll need to use a 92-95 civic ex or si timing belt! Also a stock d series with nitrous doesnt qualify it as a built motor my friend. Too bad your not like the guy that owns that car and can actually learn from others. Like I previously posted I wasnt trying to start shit with you, just trying to help you from misguiding others that is all. Oh yeah my built D series was a monster for a n/a motor Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cbustuner Posted October 16, 2007 Report Share Posted October 16, 2007 mini me=usdm sohc 1.5 or obd2 1.6 non vtec block with a vtec head... http://crx.honda-perf.org/articles/z6swap/z6swap.html http://crx.honda-perf.org/articles/moreminime/moreminime.html http://www.honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=635580 ANyways really who cares? It's just a term. is it d-series picture time lol? http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f118/cbuscivictuner/recentblackvc1.jpg my pile but its going under the knife and into a diffrent shell now (thats why I said ask me if you need any help) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaddyBuiltRacing Posted October 16, 2007 Report Share Posted October 16, 2007 ^^Thank you, I was never trying to start an argument. Just trying to help the original poster of this thread from getting confused. Im trying to thikn if there is anything else you will need 92-95 Civic EX/SI timing belt (x) d16z6 head studs (x) d16z6 head gasket (x) obd1 conversion/vtec activator (x) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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