Guest Hal Posted August 21, 2008 Report Share Posted August 21, 2008 This is why. They were built to take abuse. Most people don't do a motor swap like this when the pop the stock one. http://www.modularfords.com/forums/showthread.php?t=116418 Fast forward to post 15 for some good stuff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest 614Streets Posted August 21, 2008 Report Share Posted August 21, 2008 Most stock cars didnt come with manley h beam rods. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Hal Posted August 21, 2008 Report Share Posted August 21, 2008 Why do I love the only Cobras worth a damn? Better? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest 614Streets Posted August 21, 2008 Report Share Posted August 21, 2008 What was better was the lighting a fire with live ammo comment. That fucking guy....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Jones Posted August 21, 2008 Report Share Posted August 21, 2008 I found out what made that car rock! "We're using the LS1 coils " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Hal Posted August 21, 2008 Report Share Posted August 21, 2008 I found out what made that car rock! "We're using the LS1 coils " I'm actually thinking about that if I ever end up making power. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Jones Posted August 21, 2008 Report Share Posted August 21, 2008 I'm actually thinking about that if I ever end up making power. Every little bit of LSX you can bolt on would help. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Hal Posted August 21, 2008 Report Share Posted August 21, 2008 I did wonder if anyone would read far enough to notice those coils. Unfortunately, blowout tends to be an issue with these cars. The aftermarket coils usually suck too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XChris1632X Posted August 21, 2008 Report Share Posted August 21, 2008 You know why I love cobras? Because they make me realize that I am glad I have a chevy. J/K I had to throw something out there. Really though I have a big sweet spot for just about any 03 or 04 Cobra, especially a black one. I have just not known as many people with them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenny Posted August 21, 2008 Report Share Posted August 21, 2008 Because you haven't raced a fast Buick? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kirks5oh Posted August 21, 2008 Report Share Posted August 21, 2008 i knew those aluminators would turn out to be junk. i've bought plenty of parts from tousely ford---they have ford GT pumps for super cheap, i also bought my whipple from them for under $3k. i'll also be getting an 8.8 housing from them this year--$500 or so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coltboostin Posted August 21, 2008 Report Share Posted August 21, 2008 This is why. They were built to take abuse. Most people don't do a motor swap like this when the pop the stock one. http://www.modularfords.com/forums/showthread.php?t=116418 Fast forward to post 15 for some good stuff. I would agree if I didnt see one lock up a motor trying to keep up with my "POS" Colt on the top end. :gtfo: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coltboostin Posted August 21, 2008 Report Share Posted August 21, 2008 And 1 Minute of reading netted me this. Quoting the owner of the car. "Currently the injectors are maxed at 36 PSI. Car makes 1000 at the wheels thru the 4r70W. We made this power long ago but it took 7 motors to figure out how to keep it together." Yep. Thats one sweet piece of Ford engineering alright... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kirks5oh Posted August 21, 2008 Report Share Posted August 21, 2008 I would agree if I didnt see one lock up a motor trying to keep up with my "POS" Colt on the top end. :gtfo: that's a well-known problem with these cars. for every problem, there's a solution. a $120 solution to cool the cylinder heads--ford never claimed their engineers were that smart. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Hal Posted August 21, 2008 Report Share Posted August 21, 2008 And 1 Minute of reading netted me this. Quoting the owner of the car. "Currently the injectors are maxed at 36 PSI. Car makes 1000 at the wheels thru the 4r70W. We made this power long ago but it took 7 motors to figure out how to keep it together." Yep. Thats one sweet piece of Ford engineering alright... Read further, all motors were lost with a hole in at least one piston. Also read that he tried more than just stock engines. That is tuning my friend. They ran into some problems with lean conditions at one point because of the 99-01 Cobra intake they were running. With the BS3 they can control the amount of fuel delivered to each cylinder individually. As for your buddy locking up his motor, he should've known better. He shouldn't have been doing any top end pulls without the even cooling mod. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coltboostin Posted August 21, 2008 Report Share Posted August 21, 2008 that's a well-known problem with these cars. for every problem, there's a solution. a $120 solution to cool the cylinder heads--ford never claimed their engineers were that smart. Oh, I know. But this was back in 04 when they were newer, and the issue was still mostly unknown. Read further, all motors were lost with a hole in at least one piston. Also read that he tried more than just stock engines. That is tuning my friend. They ran into some problems with lean conditions at one point because of the 99-01 Cobra intake they were running. With the BS3 they can control the amount of fuel delivered to each cylinder individually. As for your buddy locking up his motor, he should've known better. He shouldn't have been doing any top end pulls without the even cooling mod. Are you trying to write off Seven, count them Seven fucking motors as "Thats tuning?!?!" You kidding me? I need some of that Ford Dank your smoking. :gtfo: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Hal Posted August 21, 2008 Report Share Posted August 21, 2008 Are you trying to write off Seven, count them Seven fucking motors as "Thats tuning?!?!" You kidding me? I need some of that Ford Dank your smoking. :gtfo: You really think you can't pop 7 motors due to poor tuning? What are you smoking? Keep in mind, he has had this car built for a few years now. 7 motors due to tuning issues over a couple years is completely possible. Read on, he even states tuning was the issue on most. PS. I'm a little sick of everyone saying I'm a Ford guy. I don't like Ford, I like 03-04 Cobras. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenny Posted August 21, 2008 Report Share Posted August 21, 2008 I know a guy that has blown 17 head gaskets and driven over one crank. I bet that is due to the motor design, and not the tune. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Hal Posted August 21, 2008 Report Share Posted August 21, 2008 You guys do realize what causes detonation, correct? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cordell Posted August 21, 2008 Report Share Posted August 21, 2008 You guys do realize what causes detonation, correct? HEAT, lean condition, incorrect timing, but for you Cobra owners I'll bet heat has alot to do with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Hal Posted August 21, 2008 Report Share Posted August 21, 2008 HEAT, lean condition, incorrect timing, but for you Cobra owners I'll bet heat has alot to do with it. Not on turbo cars with the even cooling mod. IAT2 temps are lowered significantly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coltboostin Posted August 22, 2008 Report Share Posted August 22, 2008 You really think you can't pop 7 motors due to poor tuning? What are you smoking? Keep in mind, he has had this car built for a few years now. 7 motors due to tuning issues over a couple years is completely possible. Read on, he even states tuning was the issue on most. PS. I'm a little sick of everyone saying I'm a Ford guy. I don't like Ford, I like 03-04 Cobras. You can pop 230857123 Motors if the tuning is off, but then 1) Why would you not change the tune? 2) If your an idiot and cant tune your car, why cant you switch tuners? 3) a GOOD Motor should have SOME resistance to a lean condition, or detonation. Ran my motor to 14 to 1 numerous times since I was out of injector. 700+whp later, 2 years, and the motor is still running storng. For these reasons, I see no excuse for the motor eating Cobra. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Hal Posted August 22, 2008 Report Share Posted August 22, 2008 You can pop 230857123 Motors if the tuning is off, but then 1) Why would you not change the tune? 2) If your an idiot and cant tune your car, why cant you switch tuners? 3) a GOOD Motor should have SOME resistance to a lean condition, or detonation. Ran my motor to 14 to 1 numerous times since I was out of injector. 700+whp later, 2 years, and the motor is still running storng. For these reasons, I see no excuse for the motor eating Cobra. Maybe 1 and 2 are are good points. I don't see any reason for them to have popped so many. A lean condition plus too much timing would be a bad thing. I'm simply pointing out that a stock longblock can hold that type of power with a good tune. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Science Abuse Posted August 22, 2008 Report Share Posted August 22, 2008 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dWgJxaQss9M Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thorne Posted August 22, 2008 Report Share Posted August 22, 2008 you can have RICH knock too. some people seem to think you can just toss more fuel at it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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