SpaceGhost Posted December 4, 2008 Report Share Posted December 4, 2008 http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/12/04/clinton.eligible/index.html WASHINGTON (CNN) -- Polls show that Americans overwhelmingly approve of Sen. Hillary Clinton as secretary of state, but will the founding fathers veto this popular addition to Barack Obama's "team of rivals"? President-elect Barack Obama named Sen. Hillary Clinton as his choice for secretary of state Monday. President-elect Barack Obama named Sen. Hillary Clinton as his choice for secretary of state Monday. Yes, according to one conservative interpretation of the Constitution. Article 1, Section 6 of the Constitution says the following: "No Senator or Representative shall, during the time for which he was elected, be appointed to any civil office under the authority of the United States, which shall have been created, or the emoluments whereof shall have been increased during such time." Translation: A lawmaker cannot fill a position if the salary for that position has been raised during that lawmaker's term in office. In January, President Bush signed an executive order increasing the salary for the secretary of state and other Cabinet positions by $4,700. Hillary Clinton has been in the Senate since January 2001. Case closed, says the conservative advocacy group Judicial Watch. "There's no getting around the Constitution's ineligibility clause, so Hillary Clinton is prohibited from serving in the Cabinet until at least 2013, when her current term expires," Judicial Watch President Tom Fitton said in a statement. Video Watch: Bill Clinton talks about his wife's nomination » "No public official who has taken the oath to support and defend the Constitution should support this appointment." Not so fast, most legal scholars say. In the past, lawmakers have found a way around the clause, with Congress changing the salary of the office in question back to what it originally was. It happened when Ohio Sen. William Saxbe was named President Nixon's attorney general in 1974 and again when Texas Sen. Lloyd Bentsen became President Clinton's Treasury secretary in 1993. "There are many ways around this problem," CNN legal analyst Jeffrey Toobin noted. "One is for Congress to vote a lower salary. Another way is for Hillary Clinton simply to accept a lower salary. Another way is simply to ignore the problem on the idea that no one has the right, has the standing, to sue to stop her from being secretary of state. Video Watch: Analysts weigh in on Clinton pick » "This is not going to be an impediment to her being secretary of state," Toobin argued. One Clinton aide said that both Clinton and Obama were aware of the issue when he announced her as his choice for secretary of state. And Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid's office said congressional Democrats are moving forward with a measure similar to what has been done before. Judicial Watch takes issue with the precedent. "We think it's inadequate," Fitton said. "You can't amend the Constitution through legislation like that. ... The Constitution doesn't have any caveats. It's plain as day." Fitton pointed to what President Reagan did when facing a similar situation. "Ronald Reagan took a look at this clause and decided against appointing Orrin Hatch, who was a senator and still is, to the Supreme Court," he noted. advertisement Whatever the activists, scholars or pundits say, the public has apparently made up its mind. A CNN/Opinion Research Corp. poll conducted December 1-2 indicated that 71 percent of Americans approve of Obama's nomination of Clinton as his secretary of state. Democrats overwhelmingly approve of the choice, with two-thirds of independents agreeing and Republicans split evenly on the pick. Oh Noes! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HAOLE Posted December 4, 2008 Report Share Posted December 4, 2008 Ban yourself for posting a political thread! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheHaze Posted December 4, 2008 Report Share Posted December 4, 2008 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dYjhFjvw5gk&feature=related Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
87GT Posted December 4, 2008 Report Share Posted December 4, 2008 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gs37NSLy3z4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Putty Posted December 4, 2008 Report Share Posted December 4, 2008 Ibtl Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thorne Posted December 4, 2008 Report Share Posted December 4, 2008 Ban yourself for posting a political thread! So did you cry when the birth doc came out from the day he was born? Did your church rapture away because the anticrist is in office? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotty2Hotty Posted December 4, 2008 Report Share Posted December 4, 2008 The Constitution seems to be just a piece of paper today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRocket1647545505 Posted December 4, 2008 Report Share Posted December 4, 2008 The Constitution seems to be just a piece of paper today. Sadly, true. Fucking crooked politicians. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HAOLE Posted December 4, 2008 Report Share Posted December 4, 2008 So did you cry when the birth doc came out from the day he was born? Did your church rapture away because the anticrist is in office? Another example of Thorne trying to stir up stuff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HAOLE Posted December 4, 2008 Report Share Posted December 4, 2008 The Constitution seems to be just a piece of paper today. Yea, who cares about the constitution that served us well for 200+ years. It was written by people so long ago it is not relevant any longer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
87GT Posted December 4, 2008 Report Share Posted December 4, 2008 Yea, who cares about the constitution that served us well for 200+ years. It was written by people so long ago it is not relevant any longer. The bible must not be relevant then... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparky Posted December 4, 2008 Report Share Posted December 4, 2008 The bible must not be relevant then... It's not Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HAOLE Posted December 4, 2008 Report Share Posted December 4, 2008 Wow a political thread turn religious, not started by me. who would ever guess? I say Ben and Thorne get a 3 day vacation for starting political then turning it religious. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KillJoy Posted December 4, 2008 Report Share Posted December 4, 2008 KillJoy's Political View -------------------- Everyone who is currently is Office..... GONE. Start over fresh. Do away w/ Lobiests. /period Get folks in Office who have never been. Run the Gov't like a business, and the the BEST person for the job, gets it. Uphold the Constitution as if you life depended on it..... because it kind of does.... :thumbup: KillJoy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpaceGhost Posted December 4, 2008 Author Report Share Posted December 4, 2008 I say Ben and Thorne get a 3 day vacation for starting political then turning it religious. Nobody cares what you say. And Bill didn't co-start this thread I did. So your logic fails again. He simply posted in it as you have, so if we go so do you. It will fly, they will just take the pay increase away and guess what, it will not be an issue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ImUrOBGYN Posted December 4, 2008 Report Share Posted December 4, 2008 Another example of Thorne trying to stir up stuff He did say let's get Rick riled up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Karacho1647545492 Posted December 4, 2008 Report Share Posted December 4, 2008 1) Someone reopen the politcal forum so this shit has somewhere to fester 2) If they block Clinton getting the bid, they may end up with someone far worse. I hate her but I think she'd be a great Secretary of State. 3) If we followed every word of the Constitution verbatim, we wouldn't have a professional army, all military service would be localized and entirely in the militia format, and we'd be a third world country. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HAOLE Posted December 4, 2008 Report Share Posted December 4, 2008 KillJoy's Political View -------------------- Everyone who is currently is Office..... GONE. Start over fresh. Do away w/ Lobiests. /period Get folks in Office who have never been. Run the Gov't like a business, and the the BEST person for the job, gets it. Uphold the Constitution as if you life depended on it..... because it kind of does.... :thumbup: KillJoy agreed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wonderboy Posted December 4, 2008 Report Share Posted December 4, 2008 KillJoy's Political View -------------------- Everyone who is currently is Office..... GONE. Start over fresh. Do away w/ Lobiests. /period Get folks in Office who have never been. Run the Gov't like a business, and the the BEST person for the job, gets it. Uphold the Constitution as if you life depended on it..... because it kind of does.... :thumbup: KillJoy :thumbup: I support this message. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wonderboy Posted December 4, 2008 Report Share Posted December 4, 2008 1) Someone reopen the politcal forum so this shit has somewhere to fester 2) If they block Clinton getting the bid, they may end up with someone far worse. I hate her but I think she'd be a great Secretary of State. 3) If we followed every word of the Constitution verbatim, we wouldn't have a professional army, all military service would be localized and entirely in the militia format, and we'd be a third world country. Well our money is worth nothing, tons of people are out of jobs, robbery and theft are way up. Unfortunately I think we may be heading that direction and I blame it entirely on the government not sticking strictly enough to the constitution. (and changing it to suit their needs) Plus people are a bunch of bitches. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HAOLE Posted December 5, 2008 Report Share Posted December 5, 2008 Nobody cares what you say. Let's get Rick fired up! Fail..... The point of your thread is to get my opinion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpaceGhost Posted December 5, 2008 Author Report Share Posted December 5, 2008 Fish Hook! http://graphics.boston.com/resize/bonzai-fba/Globe_Photo/2008/06/13/1213402900_0499/539w.jpg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheHaze Posted December 5, 2008 Report Share Posted December 5, 2008 Hopefully Hillary will continue her great foreign communication, as secretary of state. Here's proof of it when she avoided sniper fire in Bosnia: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenny Posted December 5, 2008 Report Share Posted December 5, 2008 Thomas Jefferson is rolling in his grave. Maybe we'll luck out and both will get whacked in HD. Bonus points if they nock Biden as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HAOLE Posted December 5, 2008 Report Share Posted December 5, 2008 Hopefully Hillary will continue her great foreign communication, as secretary of state. Here's proof of it when she avoided sniper fire in Bosnia: :whistle: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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