starkmaster03 Posted December 8, 2008 Report Share Posted December 8, 2008 I'm thinking about buying a new truck, looking for a Chevy/GMC 2500HD 4x4 with the 6.6L. I've got two in mind one but one is an 03, Black with grey leather, 6-speed manual and 126K miles. The second is an 02, red with grey cloth, auto and 78K miles. My question is, how reliable is the 6-speed manual, I've only heard cons about getting one with the Allison trany but nothing about the 6-speed. They are asking the same price for both, what are they worth in today's market? Thanks guys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Bruh Posted December 8, 2008 Report Share Posted December 8, 2008 the 6spds are uber rare. drive one i fuckin hate em. Way to grabby, ive drove a 5/6spd since i was 14 and hate the duramax 6spds, the auto are fine. The new auto 6spd is the best one but its 2006+ trucks. If you want a manual go dodge. they drive like a cadillac for a 6spd truck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Bruh Posted December 8, 2008 Report Share Posted December 8, 2008 who has the trucks? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cordell Posted December 8, 2008 Report Share Posted December 8, 2008 Thining about buying something that doesn't need an axle upgrade? I guess you'll just have to suck it up and buy your first automatic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boosted98gst Posted December 8, 2008 Report Share Posted December 8, 2008 +1 only 6 speed diesel trucks I like are cummins. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Bruh Posted December 8, 2008 Report Share Posted December 8, 2008 +1 only 6 speed diesel trucks I like are cummins. fords are nice 6spds too WAYYY better the the duraduds. but best power makers are the 6spds. ive seen 6spd cummins at 700k miles putting down 500hp 980ft/lb with out any issues Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotty2Hotty Posted December 8, 2008 Report Share Posted December 8, 2008 I'm thinking about buying a new truck, looking for a Chevy/GMC 2500HD 4x4 with the 6.6L. I've got two in mind one but one is an 03, Black with grey leather, 6-speed manual and 126K miles. The second is an 02, red with grey cloth, auto and 78K miles. My question is, how reliable is the 6-speed manual, I've only heard cons about getting one with the Allison trany but nothing about the 6-speed. They are asking the same price for both, what are they worth in today's market? Thanks guys. The 6-speeds from what I've heard are pretty rock solid. The Allison is a great tranny providing you don't cross the 750FTLB mark and drive it like you stole it. I'd say the 02 should still get within the $18K+ range, they still have a good re-sale no matter the market. Depending on cab, size of bed, and options, they'll still be in the upper teens. Here's a KBB example price: 02 Crew Cab Short bed 4X4 in Good condition with the standard options $16,000 at the moment. You'll be happy with the Duramax trucks, they respond very well to an exhaust, intake and programmer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
starkmaster03 Posted December 8, 2008 Author Report Share Posted December 8, 2008 The 6-speeds from what I've heard are pretty rock solid. The Allison is a great tranny providing you don't cross the 750FTLB mark and drive it like you stole it. I'd say the 02 should still get within the $18K+ range, they still have a good re-sale no matter the market. Depending on cab, size of bed, and options, they'll still be in the upper teens. Here's a KBB example price: 02 Crew Cab Short bed 4X4 in Good condition with the standard options $16,000 at the moment. You'll be happy with the Duramax trucks, they respond very well to an exhaust, intake and programmer. Both are short bed, four door, and I already have EFI Live for the TA so the programming is covered. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotty2Hotty Posted December 8, 2008 Report Share Posted December 8, 2008 Both are short bed, four door, and I already have EFI Live for the TA so the programming is covered. I'd suggest an MBRP 4in Turbo back, and any one of the intakes on the market. I've seen over 20MPG freeway on Duramax's. Should run 200K with little problems, I'll be looking come spring for one. I'd personally go with that 02' with the auto. I'd rather not row my own gears towing things. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
starkmaster03 Posted December 8, 2008 Author Report Share Posted December 8, 2008 who has the trucks? 03 6-speed 02 auto I really like the black but I wasn't sure about the 6-speed. The milage doesn't bother me much because of it being a diesel. Which would you guys chose? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
starkmaster03 Posted December 8, 2008 Author Report Share Posted December 8, 2008 I'd suggest an MBRP 4in Turbo back, and any one of the intakes on the market. I've seen over 20MPG freeway on Duramax's. Should run 200K with little problems, I'll be looking come spring for one. I'd personally go with that 02' with the auto. I'd rather not row my own gears towing things. I believe that you were the one the mentioned in another thread about not buying newer that 04 because of the turbo back exhaust regulation. Did I recall that correctly? Yeah, I'll be using it to tow the car to rentals and to tow a my gf horse trailor to her shows. That's why I was thinking th 02. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotty2Hotty Posted December 8, 2008 Report Share Posted December 8, 2008 I believe that you were the one the mentioned in another thread about not buying newer that 04 because of the turbo back exhaust regulation. Did I recall that correctly? You are correct. 05+ actually were forced to put cats on the trucks, so if you don't want the hastle you can buy 04 and down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Bruh Posted December 8, 2008 Report Share Posted December 8, 2008 the 6spd is a base truck thats vinal not leather cant see the pic of the 02 but 02 ftw, not the new stupid angle headlights and hood. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boosted98gst Posted December 8, 2008 Report Share Posted December 8, 2008 my girlfriends brother always wanted diesel truck, his old late 80's gas ford truck just did not have the balls to pull the things he needed for work, he ended up finding the truck at richart in columbus, it is a 2005, white, auto extended cab, with long bed, super nice snow plow set up , had a nice jason cab on the back also, the truck is crazy clean. He wanted to me to look over the truck which I could not find anything wrong . He got the truck out the door for 18500 and only had 52k on it , which was a steal in my book , I spoke with the guy and said they are having issues selling trucks in general. and said a few have been around or on the lot for a year. good luck finding what you want. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boosted98gst Posted December 8, 2008 Report Share Posted December 8, 2008 BTW roby mitsu in dublin has a 03 cummins blue with low mile auto for 12500 I drove by and seen it, it could be only a 2wheel drive im not totally sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wnaplay1647545503 Posted December 8, 2008 Report Share Posted December 8, 2008 This truck is badass, buy it. http://columbus.craigslist.org/cto/949938445.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotty2Hotty Posted December 8, 2008 Report Share Posted December 8, 2008 This truck is badass, buy it. http://columbus.craigslist.org/cto/949938445.html Gooseneck means he tows a bit with it, I'd pass. LMM is a good motor, but I'd rather have an 04 and below without that BS particulate filter. PDF = power loss. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wnaplay1647545503 Posted December 8, 2008 Report Share Posted December 8, 2008 It has been my experience that most trucks have been abused in some way, I would never trust someone who states a vehicle has never been towed with especially if it is a vehicle capable of towing. You should always thoroughly inspect any vehicle before purchasing and hope you have a little bit of luck. Also what type of hitch is needed for the horse trailer? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
starkmaster03 Posted December 8, 2008 Author Report Share Posted December 8, 2008 This truck is badass, buy it. http://columbus.craigslist.org/cto/949938445.html Too much, I'm looking for a Duramax, 2500HD, four door, 4x4, short bed, from about 2001 -2004. Looking in about the 15K range. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
starkmaster03 Posted December 8, 2008 Author Report Share Posted December 8, 2008 It has been my experience that most trucks have been abused in some way, I would never trust someone who states a vehicle has never been towed with especially if it is a vehicle capable of towing. You should always thoroughly inspect any vehicle before purchasing and hope you have a little bit of luck. Also what type of hitch is needed for the horse trailer? Just a hitch, it's a tow behind, not a 5th wheel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotty2Hotty Posted December 8, 2008 Report Share Posted December 8, 2008 It has been my experience that most trucks have been abused in some way, I would never trust someone who states a vehicle has never been towed with especially if it is a vehicle capable of towing. You should always thoroughly inspect any vehicle before purchasing and hope you have a little bit of luck. Also what type of hitch is needed for the horse trailer? Gooseneck or 5th wheel. Horse trailers tend to be on the larger side meaning 12K+ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Bruh Posted December 8, 2008 Report Share Posted December 8, 2008 Gooseneck means he tows a bit with it captin obvious. why would someone spend the extra 4-7k for a diesel engine and not use it. let the truck tell the story. if its clean its clean. if they used it for a work truck you can tell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Bruh Posted December 8, 2008 Report Share Posted December 8, 2008 Gooseneck or 5th wheel. Horse trailers tend to be on the larger side meaning 12K+ guess most people you know have 60k plus invested in a trailer. most hose trailers are 4-6k. plus the horses. so 8-9k. which a 1/2 can pull Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotty2Hotty Posted December 8, 2008 Report Share Posted December 8, 2008 guess most people you know have 60k plus invested in a trailer. most hose trailers are 4-6k. plus the horses. so 8-9k. which a 1/2 can pull 95% of my customers tend to have the larger trailers. I know of quite a few people that don't use their diesels to tow a thing, but if the truck is rocking a gooseneck it'll tend to have towed the heavier loads. Meaning putting lots of stress on the transmission, which is a common weak point on diesels. That was my point, and yes I know most do tow with their diesels. Under 10K pounds I wouldn't worry, but the 12K+ I'd second guess. Might have to be ready to replace an tranny, and a good one isn't cheap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
starkmaster03 Posted December 8, 2008 Author Report Share Posted December 8, 2008 It's a four horse trailer but she only takes one, and it's all aluminium except for the frame. I think that it's in the 6K-7K range, but not sure. We pull it with an 01 2500HD with the 6.0L in it and it pulls fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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