Drew2o2 Posted October 12, 2009 Report Share Posted October 12, 2009 oh shit i missed the auto entirely. With that setup foxs can easily run low 10s so this is gonna come down to if your gonna hook that power up. You have the possibility to run very low 10s/ high 9.9xx. I think aslong as track conditions permit you hooking youll walk him. The part everyone is missing and i should highlight is this. Your title states "395whp bmw" however with the 15lbs of boost even with the c4 youll still probably be closer to 500whp. Im not trying to talk shit, just stateing the facts. And its a fact that youll win if you stick. Your nearly 1000 lbs lighter with only a small power disadvantage. On paper i assume you will hook so one more vote goes too you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drew2o2 Posted October 12, 2009 Report Share Posted October 12, 2009 id still like too know what the f body runs at the track because that would be the only possibility of changing my mind on the vote. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrMeanGreen Posted October 12, 2009 Report Share Posted October 12, 2009 500rwhp? Sounds like Sam is sandbagging 10.70s here, trapping in the 130s. I'm still working out my suspension setup, shift points, and launch technique. The car is not even close to being dialed-in, and I'm changing the damned setup in a few months Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Removed Posted October 12, 2009 Report Share Posted October 12, 2009 500rwhp? Sounds like Sam is sandbagging 10.70s here, trapping in the 130s. I'm still working out my suspension setup, shift points, and launch technique. The car is not even close to being dialed-in, and I'm changing the damned setup in a few months oh yeah...the other blower pulley will be here tuesday so get with randy for the retune :bangbang::bangbang::bangbang::bangbang::bangbang: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mopar Posted October 12, 2009 Report Share Posted October 12, 2009 With the info about the trans stealing dyno power, I'd like to change my vote. Unless there will happen to be a small gun on the bird..... mo nos plz? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boosted98gst Posted October 12, 2009 Report Share Posted October 12, 2009 500rwhp? Sounds like Sam is sandbagging 10.70s here, trapping in the 130s. I'm still working out my suspension setup, shift points, and launch technique. The car is not even close to being dialed-in, and I'm changing the damned setup in a few months I don't know you, but just from reading a lot about your set up and car, I really have fell in love with your car. That has to be one of the best street set ups on cr. running 10's check! trapping in the 130's check! Is this car full interior and ac and heat? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrMeanGreen Posted October 12, 2009 Report Share Posted October 12, 2009 I don't know you, but just from reading a lot about your set up and car, I really have fell in love with your car. That has to be one of the best street set ups on cr. running 10's check! trapping in the 130's check! Is this car full interior and ac and heat? Yes. I've always aimed for being as streetable as possible. The exhaust is a bit loud, but I have a new header-back sitting in the garage that will pick up power/torque and will be quieter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gillbot Posted October 12, 2009 Report Share Posted October 12, 2009 quiet schmiet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICEMAN1647545504 Posted October 12, 2009 Report Share Posted October 12, 2009 I didn't think Sam's car made the power advertised from him... I thought it made a lot more, but he was at the dyno Sat. and that car did NOT break the 400whp mark at 12#... I dont think 3# will give him 100whp... But... Sorry Anthony, if he can 60' that thing, you are going to have your hands full... I still stick with Sam winning... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrMeanGreen Posted October 12, 2009 Report Share Posted October 12, 2009 3# will net me 60-70rwhp more on my baby blower. I'd venture to say with his turbo, it's possible. I'll need a few passes anyways to get some things tweaked before running him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miller Posted October 12, 2009 Report Share Posted October 12, 2009 3# will net me 60-70rwhp more on my baby blower. I'd venture to say with his turbo, it's possible. I'll need a few passes anyways to get some things tweaked before running him. Not on his turbo and setup. If it's extremely efficient he can expect 20+hp # but most likely 15-20 per pound. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Linc5.0 Posted October 12, 2009 Report Share Posted October 12, 2009 i was def thinking 20 to 25 per pound Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Removed Posted October 12, 2009 Report Share Posted October 12, 2009 sam, i know you hit 12 on the dyno..but how much you seeing on the street? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miller Posted October 12, 2009 Report Share Posted October 12, 2009 i was def thinking 20 to 25 per pound not usually. If he made 520whp on 15 pounds with gt40's deduct about 250 hp for a strongish running motor and divide that number by pounds of boost. That would be about 18hp per psi. It won't get much higher then that. More importantly is the torque that engine will make. Mine made a shit ton at very low rpm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Removed Posted October 12, 2009 Report Share Posted October 12, 2009 More importantly is the torque that engine will make. Mine made a shit ton at very low rpm. and was still climbing before it begged the maf..and just think..that was on 7 cylinders Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drew2o2 Posted October 13, 2009 Report Share Posted October 13, 2009 miller i believe your calculation is incorrect due to the turbo starting to not be as efficient towards the top end. we would need to see the compressor map for the 72 to determinie this for sure. that and some very well done gt40 head setups can approach 300whp n/a when done right. 15 sounds just about right like he stated. Honestly i think both of you guys are gonna try to come on with everything you think you can put out and alittle more. Running 10.30s sams gonna have to make everyone shit a brick out the hole however its dueable. Both these cars a extremely fast however there both screaming fo 9inchs to reach there true potential. you guys both have too much motor for the car and either could break so its really up in the air. Anthony whats your 60 ft and gear. Whats the final drive on the bmw as well. That gears really gonna determine whos gonna run who down in the top end. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrMeanGreen Posted October 13, 2009 Report Share Posted October 13, 2009 1.5x 60', 3.73s w/ 28" tall tires. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drew2o2 Posted October 13, 2009 Report Share Posted October 13, 2009 im pissed i had a whole chart of speeds with gear ratios ex. shit ill type it again because it brings forward important facts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neonkiller Posted October 13, 2009 Report Share Posted October 13, 2009 You are all retards. No one knows every aspect of either car. With that said lets start the illegal betting =) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drew2o2 Posted October 13, 2009 Report Share Posted October 13, 2009 (edited) Anthonys car Im gonna assume you turn it 6400rpm correct me if im wrong GM 4l60e ratios 1st 3.06 2nd 1.63 3rd 1.0 4th .70 28inch tire 3.73 gear 1st 3.06 rpm 6437 speed 47mph 2nd 1.63 rpm 6420 speed 88mph 3rd 1.0 rpm 6401 speed 143mph 4th .70 rpm 6392 speed 204mph Anthony your car is very well geared for the strip. On paper i tried several other combos 4.10s/ 26 inch tire and both would probably make you run out of gear unless you go past 64xx. Sams car First i have no insight on his car so this is strictly speculation and i will update later if nessecary if he tells me something else is different. Now if i had a stock 5.0 block boosting i would not go past 5500rpm after 500whp if i wanted it to stay together for anytime. However i believe that sam may possibly run out of gear since hes using a c4. I do not know the final drive of the bmw however im gonna list standard mustang ratios to demonstrate my point turbo 5.0 BMW 26inch tire c4 transmission ratios 1st 2.46 2nd 1.46 3rd 1.0 (3.27 ratio) 1st 2.46 rpm 5510 speed 53mph 2nd 1.46 rpm 5491 speed 89mph 3rd 1.0 rpm 5494 speed 130mph (MAXED OUT) Im gonna list the following rpm and speeds to run both 130mph and 135 assuming 130 losses to anthony and 135 takes him. This is not a set in stone formula im making assumption but my only reason for this is showing the gear ratios. 3.55 130mph=5964rpm. 135mph=6193 (this is ugly territory for stock 5.0 block at 500 plus whp) 3.73 130mph=6266 rpm 135mph=6507 3.90 130mph=6552 rpm 135mph=6804 4.10 130mph=6888 rpm 135mph=7153 Ive come to the conclusion that sams car either has 3.73s or 4.10s from my research on the limited vehicle information provided. Simply put unless he gets a overdrive auto or a different gear ratio or possibly fit a 28inch tire and even that i dont believe will be enough and he will runn out of gear Edited October 13, 2009 by Drew2o2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drew2o2 Posted October 13, 2009 Report Share Posted October 13, 2009 how am i a retard i am the only one who took the time to list the specifics you just posted a ignorant statement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrMeanGreen Posted October 13, 2009 Report Share Posted October 13, 2009 So far, I win by default. Someone is missing from this list: http://www.columbusracing.com/forums/showthread.php?t=71432 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Removed Posted October 13, 2009 Report Share Posted October 13, 2009 So far, I win by default. Someone is missing from this list: http://www.columbusracing.com/forums/showthread.php?t=71432 sort list..nice to see me up by the top tho Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam1647545489 Posted October 14, 2009 Author Report Share Posted October 14, 2009 im pissed i had a whole chart of speeds with gear ratios ex. shit ill type it again because it brings forward important facts 2.92 gear and gonna try to stuff a 26" tire in the rear.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam1647545489 Posted October 14, 2009 Author Report Share Posted October 14, 2009 So far, I win by default. Someone is missing from this list: http://www.columbusracing.com/forums/showthread.php?t=71432 Just got my internets turned on in the new house. Signing up whore bag. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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